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Spotify, the world’s leading music streaming platform, is facing intense criticism and boycott calls following CEO Daniel Ek’s announcement of a €600m ($702m) investment in Helsing, a German defence startup specialising in AI-powered combat drones and military software.

The move, announced on 17 June, has sparked widespread outrage from musicians, activists and social media users who accuse Ek of funnelling profits from music streaming into the military industry.

Many have started calling on users to cancel their subscriptions to the service.

“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.

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[-] [email protected] 133 points 6 days ago

I boycotted them a long time ago when I found out they donated to Trump's campaign, despite being a Swedish company.

[-] [email protected] 50 points 6 days ago

Wow didn't know that.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago

I also newly started boycotting them for the same reasons. Plus they don't give enough to the musicians, and support AI music.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Been off Spotify since they have Rogan his platform, which contributed to Trump also.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Not to mention giving 100s of millions of dollars to fund Joe Rogan and his extreme right-wing propaganda.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

thats when i cancelled as well. this guy seems like such a fucknut

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

i boycotted them when i found out they streamed drm-protected lock-in music back then, and charged us a subscription for it.

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.

You shouldn't be "paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago" regardless of anything an executive has done. Be less lazy and cancel subscriptions to shitty services.

Also, if a CEO doing a bad thing is a dealbreaker for them, why the fuck are they on twitter?.

[-] [email protected] 74 points 6 days ago

I think one of the most toxic things on Lemmy is the prevalence of judging normies for using incredibly popular services and ascribing it to a character defect instead of life just being too complex for most people to be able to prioritize exploring more ethical technology choices.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago

You're not wrong. There are lots of holier-than-thou types around here.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Agreed, most comments are miserable, toxic, old man yells at cloud, energy. More and more, so.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I get where you're coming from, but it's not like there aren't multiple obvious alternatives (and not just on the fediverse). And someone being clued in enough to boycott Spotify should have no trouble finding those alternatives. Additionally, the platform being owned by an outright Nazi should give even the most out of touch people pause.

But agreed that people could stand to be a bit more tactful about it and not immediately go on the attack.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

I stopped using Spotify long ago because of their shitty business practices. Producing a product they killed support for within just a couple years without reimbursing customers and producing huge amounts of e-waste. Jacking their subscription prices twice in one year. Apparently, they also donated to Trump despite not being an American company?? That's to say nothing of their shitty recommendation algorithm, which just plays your most played tracks over and over. Good riddance.

For those interested, I use Tidal now. I'm satisfied with, their recommendation algo is fine and the higher quality streaming is really nice but nothing I've used has ever been as good as Google Play Music, I found so much good music though that service and could upload whatever I was missing. Once Tidal inevitably pisses me off, I'm going to move on to self hosting.

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago

Dude, you should have stopped using Spotify when they let Joe Rogan on their platform… or when they started hosting fake music.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Or because they pay artist way less than any one else, while having lower quality audio.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago

Always worth keeping in mind that these fuckers are selling snake oil to one another under the guise of national security.

This technology is dangerous not because it works as advertised but because it creates a vacuum of responsibility for when the very manual killing starts

Israel's Lavender AI is a great example of this in action. It doesn't work in any meaningful way. All it does is label casualties in a bombing run as "terrorists" after the fact.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Funny enough, for local downloads of video game OSTs (which I like way too much), I've been recently turning to Steam of all things. Often cheaper than Bandcamp and DRM-free!

[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Spotify CEO also donated millions to trump campaign.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago
[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Helsing supplies Ukraine which is defending itself in accord with international law and the UN Charter. An attacked nation defending itself against Russian aggression. Nothing wrong with that. Basically the opposite of Russian Z-fascism.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

Yeah, it seems they also didn't mention that it's a European defense company, not a US defense company.

Europe is investing a lot into defense now and it's actually a good thing that they're moving away from dependence on the US defense industrial complex.

Spotify sucks tho. But that's a separate thing.

Clickbait article.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I empathize with the sentiment and agree with the argument that Europe should invest in its own defense infrastructure, particularly if Putin is gearing up to make a move.

That being said, Im increasingly wary of Europe's willingness to appease Trump, and find it probable that, if right-wing parties continue making political gains, this same infrastructure will be turned against marginalized communities in these same countries; in a similar vein to the U.S regime's attacks against immigrants and dissenters.

Again, I'm not opposed to re-armament, but I hope EU citizens exercise more vigilance and skepticism in this era of resurging nationalism and protectionism.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

“Said one user on X.”

[-] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

What are the Spotify alternatives people recommend?

[-] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago

IIRC Tidal and Qobuz should be good alternatives

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Napster, bearshare

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you're technically inclined, self-host navidrome or jellyfin.

If you just want music and don't care about the streaming part, bandcamp (although it does have some basic streaming I believe.

If you want streaming and aren't technically inclined, Tidal.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Qobuz is great. It's a french company, they pay the artists well and the music is in high quality

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

damn people are just learning that spotify is a shitty pro fascist/pro white supremacist company?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Who's calling for that boycott? Putin?

Respect for the true pacifists out there, but investing in EU-based defense industry is hardly questionable by ordinary standards.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

What's up with the cool startup names recently? First Palantir the fortune teller ball, now Helsing the vampire hunter? Fuck yeah, who doesn't invest in these? /s

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

thiel has an obsession with lotr, so he named all his evil companies after various lotr themes.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Out of every company I would have never expected Spotify to be one of the ones to want that

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I thought we were already boycotting this shit

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Jokes on them, I moved to CD and love it

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

The best time to start boycotting was when they started platforming a conspiracy theorising, testicle headed manosphere peddler. The next best time is not I suppose.

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