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Good old lemmy.world mods (feddit.nl)

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And then he misrepresented what I said after banning me:

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Based on the information provided ITT and the OP, YDI; potentially YDM.

You went overboard with "that doesn't make you look ignorant" because most people will interpret it as insulting, regardless of being true or false. On itself, that wouldn't warrant a ban, only a mod warning; and that's exactly what the mod did.

Then you kept going. Even after the mod warning. You deserved that 1d ban, and probably more. (To be frank I don't even see a 1d ban as a punishment, it's more like giving time for everyone to chill their heads.)

Don't get me wrong; I'm no saint, and I've probably said the same shit you said a thousand times. But in those situations you need to learn when to back off.

EDIT: based on this message, YDM for sure. Yes, the mod is also behaving a bit like an arsehole, but you're going full pass-aggro there.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

edit: hijacking a comment near the top to say that the PTB here has stepped down as mod after their co-mods called them out in response to DMs from multiple different users complaining about the PTB's actions. Huge thank you to the other mods.

I just want to point out the comment I made that's visible in the part of the thread you linked there. I got banned for that comment, before I could reply with the evidence (of comments that I had reported, and which are still standing) that prove Wren is a liar when they claim not to have insulted anyone:

And that's before you get into the fact that they started the whole argument. With some exceptionally bad-faith idiotic whataboutism. Whether OP deserves it or not, that mod is clearly abusing their powers by provoking a reaction and then jumping on the provocation as an excuse to ban dissenting views.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I mentioned it in another comment chain, but IMO both Nay and Wren (as a user) were at fault; so while the way Wren as a mod handled Nay was correct, his behaviour as a user was really bad, and part of the reason Nay was rude - this sort of escalation takes two users*. So yes, I'm aware Wren is no voice of justice here.

About your ban, the modlog claims it to be due to "report harassment". It might be bullshit, it might be accurate, dunno; I'd need to see the reports to take any meaningful conclusion. At least your messages (here and here) look fine for me; they're a bit on the rougher side, but both were still within the acceptable IMO.

*before someone calls me out on my own behaviour: yes, I'm aware I do the same sometimes. It's also bad - I'm not pretending to be a saint either.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It might be bullshit

I mean, that mod has piped up in here claiming I reported "all their comment" (a lie) and that I did it in response to them disagreeing with my comment (another lie). So to me the answer is pretty obvious.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because you didn’t like my response to your comment, you reported everything I said in the thread

Nope. I reported a bunch of your comments that were at least as bad as, if not worse than, those that got Nay banned. I reported comments that deserved to be removed by mods because they broke the same rule that someone else got banned for.

And then I made my publicly visible reply to your comment. And then you replied and banned me before I had any chance to respond to your lies.

But try again. "No need to lie." Projecting much?

edit: to be clear: even if you don't agree that your comments shouldn't have been removed (which really shouldn't be your call to make: any mod with integrity will recuse themselves from moderating an argument that they are a part of and let another mod handle it, and that goes doubly when it comes to their own non-mod-related comments being reported), they were made in good faith because I sincerely believed they broke the rules. If you think someone deserves to be banned because they disagree with your moderation philosophy, I'm not sure you're fit to be a mod.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Because you reported all of them at the time of your ban

No. I reported maybe 5 or 6. I posted a few of them in my initial comment in this thread for context. You had made at least double that in terms of total comments. I reported the ones that were obviously breaking the rules, in my view.

if in your opinion, any mod should recuse themselves from arguments

No. You can have arguments. But you should not then take moderation action against the people you are arguing with. You should recuse yourself and allow your co-mods to deal with it. I was a mod of much more active subreddits than any Lemmy community for years before I quit Reddit, and in my opinion it's a pretty basic rule to follow to ensure you do not get into exactly the situation you now face.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

What's ridiculous is that you baited a user with your incredibly poor behaviour and then banned them for reacting it your bait, and expect people not to call you out for it.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

This isn’t about you. Stop trying to make it so

You didn't bait me. I wasn't making this about me. But since you apparently are (because how else could this entire comment be interpreted), I'll reiterate: you abused your mod powers by banning me in retaliation for me using the normal process of reporting rule-breaking content just because you don't like having it pointed out that you broke your own rules.

The bait was at Nay. Nearly every one of your comments in that thread before I ever got involved was baiting them. From the very first:

No, but It beats communism any day of the week.

I don't know how that can be seen as anything other than bait, considering the context of the post was criticising the problems with capitalism. It's whataboutism at its finest. You follow that up with:

And how many years do you personally have living under a different socioeconomic system?

Which, again, is bait. Not only is it not relevant (again, we don't have to praise everything about communism to point out the ways capitalism is bad), it's also extremely patronising. By the way, my answer is either 6 or 0, depending on what you count. With that experience, I can tell you that "Actually Existing Socialism", as the tankies like to call it, fucking sucks. The censorship (not unlike that you yourself seem to be a fan of, through your actions) is extremely stifling, the rampant corruption is much worse than we see in developed western nations

Then, when given an answer, you extremely rudely respond:

Did I ask you?

This is asking someone to be rude to you back. They even tried to play nice in the follow-up, giving you an actual answer to the question. To which you again responded

did I ask you?

And you have the fucking gall to ban them for calling you "sweetie" after that? Oh, wait, no. You pat yourself on the back for just "warning" them over this. The nerve!

You do not get to pretend you had the high ground here. Not in the slightest.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I can respect that. Perhaps leading by example would have prevented some of the escalation though. He might want to give himself a ban for being uncivil.

Help me with the initialisms, though?

YDI: You deserved It? What's YDM?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

YDI: you deserved it. YDM: you deserved more.

Given the whole content of the thread I feel like 5d for each would be fair - it's long enough to not make it look like a slap on the wrist, but short enough to acknowledge "once the ban is over you're welcome here, but please behave better".

Perhaps leading by example would have prevented some of the escalation though. He might want to give himself a ban for being uncivil.

100% agree on that. It's the mod's responsibility to set up the civility standards in a community, and Wren themself set the bar really low. You need to be way more cool-headed in a comm you mod than one you don't.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the reality check.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Kinda corny demanding that someone "explain the difference between Capital/Social/Communism and Authoritarianism". Not even a coherent demand. I wouldn't ban over it though.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Looks like someone is ignorant of the difference between "stupid" and "ignorant."

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Ignorant is insulting other users in a community that explicitly forbids it.

Stupid is failing to take the hint, doubling down and earning a temp ban, and then going after the mod in PMs.

Let me ask you a question... You've seen sports, right? I mean, maybe not as a fan or anything, but you've seen basketball, football, baseball, games, right? Even a tennis match?

You ever, once, see someone yell and scream at a ref and have the ref go "You know, you make a salient point, I changed my mind."? No. You know why? Because then EVERYONE will do it.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Ignorant is not knowing something, like the definition of ignorant.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Ignorant is correctable... Refusing to be corrected? Yeah...

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

They upgraded their ignorance to stupidity. Fucking ace

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There has been a tankie desant on Memes recently, may be part of the purge? Two of them praising Stalin gave me some feed for [email protected]

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