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Before/After. Meaux Street, Paris. (lemmy.world)

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[-] [email protected] 106 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

As part of her climate change plan, Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo is pedestrianizing streets, building bike lanes, and planting trees. The goal is to reduce carbon emissions, reduce traffic noise and make the city more able to resist heat.

She has been very aggressive and upset some car drivers. But the results are starting to pay off.

https://english.elpais.com/lifestyle/2024-04-24/the-cycling-revolution-in-paris-continues-bicycle-use-now-exceeds-car-use.html

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I fucking LOVE this. What an awesome humanistic policy!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

The traffic condition in my city is unbearable, streets made for 19th century carriages overflowing with parked cars. Pedestrization is going veeeery slowly, with heated resistance from people who would drive to their own bathrooms if they could.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago

I dream about stuff like this

[-] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

Just one more lane bro. I promise bro just one more lane and it'll fix everything bro. Bro, just one more lane. Please just one more, one more lane and we can fix this whole problem bro, bro c’mon just give me one more lane I promise bro, bro bro please! Just need one more lane

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

"bUT iT's bAd fOr bUsINesSeS"

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

wHerE Am I goInG tO paRk My cAr

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

This is awesome. What did all those people do with their cars?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

how many parking spaces are erased? 20?

apparently, in Paris, 1 in 3 households have cars ☞ https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/2012694#tableau-TCRD_001_tab1_departements

[-] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

That's actually more than I expected but it explains the traffic.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Who cares?

Nobody needs a car in Paris

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

OK then I will bite.

How do workers and tradespeople get to these places? When their refrigerator breaks and they need a repair or a new one, are those delivered on a bike?

When someone buys a mattress, do they just helicopter them in?

When people move into these apartments how does the furniture get moved in? Movers just carry it a full city block?

How do plumbers and electricians bring their equipment in? How do tilers, roofers, people who replace windows get to these places?

How do emergency services get in here? Fire trucks just dont anymore?

I dislike traffic, congestion and poor air quality, but the idea that we don't need roads is just silly. Manage them, dont delete them. This is the folly of the bourgeois.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

One could use rentable delivery vans for furniture and companies could have cars for transporting tools and workers from a central location to where they are required. The civilians who work there can indeed just take a bus/metro/bicycle and be faster in many cases.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Hello, this François on fantsy pants lane. Yes the one that doesn't have a road, that's it.

Anyway, I need 400 sq feet of ceramic tile delivered as I'm having some work done to my flat. I also need about 20 gallons of mastic and five bags of sanded grout. No, you can't drive a delivery van here, there is a shared lot two blocks away you can park at and then then the delivery people will have to bring everything from there. You won't do it? Yes I know tile is heavy. 2400 lbs? Well, dont you have a smaller delivery bike or something? Well, can't you get one? I don't understand why you're being so uncooperative!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

I've seen wheelbarrows used for that kind of thing. It's not like you could drive into the house anyways. The distances to the road portrayed in the image look quite reasonable. If one has no roads it becomes an issue if there is no replacement. For personal transit there are plenty of alternatives in cities. Pedestrian roads that can be opened to vehicles as exceptions also seem like a good compromise. I don't know where you would ride a bike if there's no road either. Some cities I've been to have bike lanes wide enough to fit cars too.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

When their refrigerator breaks and they need a repair or a new one, are those delivered on a bike?

It would be possible to deliver one via Cargo Bike yes.

When someone buys a mattress, do they just helicopter them in?

I don't know how you buy mattresses, but people usually get them delivered because in stores other than IKEA you get ripped off highly. But they would also fit on a cargo bike

Also don't play dumb, nobody has something against Vehicles for Emergency Services or Tradespeople. For them there is still enough space there.

But for individual transportation you certainly don't need one, and if you do pay for a private garage

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

Gorgeous

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Absolutely gorgeous. It goes to show how wonderful a space can be if you design it right.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Meow street

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Pronunciation: Muh. Probably

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I like your guess but I feel like it's mow.

Someone French please help!

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

French person to the rescue.

It's \mo\ or "m-oh".

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Nailed it!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In my accent I’d say “mo”.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not French, but to me it reads as "M-yoo"

Google translate just says "moo" (not elongated like a cow, just short, like "Mu")

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Mough.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Could argue it's Less street 😁

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

would look better with flowers

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

It looks like they're going for natural wildflowers, which means that there will be periods of time where it's basically all just green. What you get in return though is lots of interesting grasses but the image is pretty low resolution so you can't really see all that.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Paris has so many flowers that there are more bees inside Paris than outside Paris.

Although that's also because of the pesticides used outside Paris.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Was that a street or a parking lot? Because I see cars on the far right side, and this dead ends anyway.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

That's just a street in Europe, it's what they look like.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

On first glance I thought this could have been a two way road with trees in the middle and they closed one way for this pedestrian area.

But it actually was some kind of parking lot/access street. The actual Rue de Meaux continues straight on while what we're looking at is just a 100m long off-branch.

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