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Incidentally, I stumbled on this while looking for a Marx quote about how representatives of the old feudal order falsely positioned themselves as allies to the lower classes by attacking the excesses of industrial capitalism. If anyone has that quote, please let me know.

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[–] 54 points 1 year ago*

This person envisions a proper society being ruled by a pyramid of increasingly insular groups of pedophiles who wear stupid costumes.

Also a shitter society is probably what Martin Luther wanted

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

    None of these people ever seem to think they’d be one of the people getting the shitty end of the stick at the bottom of the pyramid

    Also, The periodic table? The categorization of elements has undergone constant iteration and refinement for centuries. There’s a reason you don’t hear about the plum pudding model or the four classical elements anymore. Hell, five new elements have been discovered in the past 25 years alone.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    you-are-a-serf

    You are a proletariat, you are not going to be a scholar, you will not be a knight fighting (edit: actually dying, your value your life so little??) """""""""honorably""""""""" for your lord (lmao, why would you?), you are not even going to be a property owner, you are going to be a serf. You are going to live in a shitty house, with shitty clothing, doing shitty labour. Your life is going to be worse then it is today.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If you lurk these "royalist" subs you sometimes get people fantasizing about living a humble peasant life. But they're always like, peasants in late-medieval central Europe living in those idyllic looking houses they preserve in Bavaria. Nobody ever images being a Russian surf or a slave on a Roman olive plantation.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Russian surf

    you-are-a-serf
    🌊🌊🌊🌊

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  • The thing about being a peasant is you were tied to a piece of land. There were actually peasants who were living pretty good because they lucked out and were tied to a very nice piece of land. Being a peasant with a good piece of land in a wealthy region may have netted you a better lifestyle than a yeoman in a poorer area.

    Thing is these were always a minority of peasants.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There's too many fucking libertarian to monarchists in the pipeline. I think I've seen maybe one or two actual nobles with real titles who are monarchists that made me go "Okay it makes sense an actual prince would support an ideology aligning with his class interests." But these random ass "I'm actually a knight without a fife" are total dipshits.

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    [–] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Of course it ends with warrior-larp shit.

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    [–] 31 points 1 year ago*

    "I don't believe in material forces" says a boy who studies the blade and is being acted upon by material forces

    Pic included

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "Basically, Marx said he wanted to make the poo poo pants shitter republic"

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is an incredible level of delusion.

    Imagine seriously using the claim of "I'm so correct that even aliens would agree".

    ??

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    what happens to a person to make this the product of their thinking jesse-wtf

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    this person is like 20 years old at the oldest

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Look, I consider myself reasonable...but I really, really need to see the shapes of these dude's skulls, just for my own information.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    property owners

    Capitalcel detected. True feudal chads know that the realm is exclusively at the disposal of the sovereign who is picked by God. Priests take vows of poverty for the sake of serving God so they shouldn't own anything. Aristocrats are enfeoffed by the sovereign and so cannot be said to truly own anything.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The whole post history is incredible

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    i can think of at least one owl that would love to live in a shitters' republic

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So....they exclude kings entirely? Or are those below warriors?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The nobility was supposed to be the military class under feudalism. It became less and less able to actually go to war as feudal contradiction progressed, but originally the lord was supposed to be the one "protecting" the peasants

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    It worked up until bows were able to reliably pierce armor.

    And even then, it was mostly a protection racket, where you were essentially paying tribute to a king so they wouldn't pillage the lands you lived on and who had left a stay-behind administrator Lord who would pick knights from the locals to administer their territories while they pretty much did whatever they wanted, which was mostly drink and fuck. And you literally prayed that the local knight or administrator was good friends with the Lord otherwise your region would only get increasing tax burden, while other regions whose knights were friends with the Lord would get off easier. This would usually escalate until the peasants in these areas were literally starving after a couple bad harvests and would start a rebellion, usually attempting to appeal to the king to dispose the bad Lord, only for the king to order the Lord to kill the peasants, because that was the whole point to begin with. Better hope you actually have something to offer, and your knight actually gave a shit about his territory, or you were easy pickings for raiding bands. And if the king wasn't able to protect you, it was still illegal for you to seek protection from someone who could.

    Rinse and repeat for basically a millennia and a half and that is more or less feudalism in a nutshell. Not that modern capitalism doesn't have it's own versions of all of this.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Robespierre did nothing wrong

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    capitalism bad because it's communism actually, please take me seriously pls

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tagline

    Defecating is as necessary as labor, but we wouldn't want to live in a "shitter's republic" that tries to reduce life to the process of eating and discharging waste from the bowels. This is basically what Marx said he wants to do.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Yeah okay, Worf

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  • Hasn't this always been a fash talking point? Capitalism is literally too woke for them, sometimes brown people make money! We need to RETVRN to a feudal caste system!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    damn they make some good points im changing sides

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