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[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I am going to be watching with a not insignificant amount of glee when AfD manages to take power in Germany specifically because of shit like this.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Europe's complicity in Israel's imperialism has been a colossal embarrassment.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Seriously, Germany's fear of repeating history is going to turn into quite the rhyme.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I don't believe one bit the "guilt" bs

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Almost like they did not understand that no genocide should happen, but that Israël was allowed to do whatever they want (some Israeli critical jewish historian was accused of antisemitism --')

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, they're so afraid of being antisemite, they forgot to be anti-genocide.

I get that they're hesitant about telling Israel what to do, but god damn, they should be the first ones to demand UN forces on the ground. My grandfather must be rolling in his grave over his countrymen repeating the failure he had to live with.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

~~The grandfather most likely was on the side of the Nazi regime or indifferent.~~ Mistakenly thought the statement was about grandfathers in general, not @[email protected] grandfather.

Anyways, Germany is not doing that out of historical responsibility or all the other stuff they talk about. This serves, or they think it serves, their own interests.

The whole "memory culture" only took off, when Germany was reunited and the European neighbors became scared of a newly powerful Germany. The supposed memory culture and subsequently support of Israel are the founding narrative of modern Germany. Changing the position on Israel would expose that narrative as flawed and would question the veracity of Germany not being a danger to the world.

Then since a decade or two the narratives around Israel also serve three goals. First it helps shifting blame for Antisemitism on "imported Antisemitism" aka "brown people". This can be seen with one of the "combating antisemitism" resolutions that the German parliament passed last year. As examples for "Antisemitism" it did not mention a white German Neonazi attempting a terrorist attack on a Synagogue in Halle. Instead the presentation of the movie "No Other Land" at the Berlinale movie festival was given as an example in the resolution. (Without specifying what exactly was "antisemitic" there).

The second goal is to absolve Germans from the supposed left to the far right from their own racism against Arabs and other "brown people". By pushing the blame of "Antisemitism" on "them", discrimination against "them" is not racist. It is just necessary to uphold Germanys historic responsibility.

Finally this also serves greatly to repress anti imperialist leftists and climate activists. Challenging colonial and post colonial structures now can be attacked as "antisemitic" as it inadvertently engages with the colonial reality of Israel.

Meanwhile Jews who do not want to be lumped in with Israel or express an anti-Zionist stance are faced with repressions and attacks by German politics and mainstream media, instead of acknowledging the Pluralism among Jewish people. In the end the alleged "fight against Antisemitism" in Germany is engaged in Antisemitism itself, instrumentalizing Jewish people and what is considered Jewish identity to conform to Germanys own narratives.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

The grandfather most likely was on the side of the Nazi regime or indifferent.

Forced to work for Nazis, but definitely not indifferent. But sure, explain my family members to me!

Regardless of the true motives, Germany is especially fearful to be seen as antisemitic, but their "memory culture" of Nie wieder is now being called put for the hypocrisy it is, as they refuse to speak up for the Palestinians, and even are scared to give Ukraine any weapons that could be used to strike Russian soil.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I am sorry, when reading i somehow mistook the "My grandfather" for "the grandfather".

Of course i don't know you or your grandfather and cannot judge that for him specifically.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm sure I've understood stuff wrong in the past and will again in the future, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think on Germany being hypocritical in their stance towards Israel, we agree atleast.

And yeah, the non-Zionists jews (for lack of better term) are definitely not getting heard, or even asked enough. But that's a whole other can of worms.

Edit: Words are hard, and Muphry's Law is a bitch.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

That reaction from the German government was to be expected, Hans-Jakob Schindler, senior director of the Netherlands-based Counter Extremism Project, told DW.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter_Extremism_Project

The group is modeled on United Against Nuclear Iran, an advocacy group led by Wallace which has had success increasing economic pressure on the Islamic Republic of Iran.

In 2017, GlobaLeaks obtained information allegedly originating from the email account of Yousef Al Otaiba, revealing a relationship between Otaiba, the UAE government, CEP and United Against Nuclear Iran. CEP and UANI are both led by Mark Wallace, who was employed as a senior adviser of The Electrum Group LLC by its chairman, Thomas Kaplan, the UANI’s top donor. Kaplan also maintains business relations with the UAE.

Nice. A Pro-US Imperialism, Pro-Israel, Pro-UAE, Anti-Iran "NGO" is quoted by the DW on German policy regarding Iran...

Schindler does not believe that the current military escalation will change anything around Germany's position on Israel. "We're not just any other country. We're Germany, with the history of the Holocaust," he explained. "In that sense there's absolutely no other moral or ethical option than expressing solidarity with Israel.

Whan an evil ghoul he is. There is international law and human rights, which Germany has vowed to uphold and Israel is massively violating. Israel is fundamentally opposed to upholding these and has enshrined both in its constitution and laws that it will break these international obligations. The only moral and ethical option is to uphold these obligations and force Israel to abide by them.

During his visit to Cairo, Wadephul commented on the Iranian strikes that came in retaliation for the earlier Israeli ones. "We condemn the indiscriminate Iranian attack on Israeli territory in the strongest possible terms," ​​Wadephul, a member of the CDU, said. "Iran is currently attacking Israel with hundreds of drones. There are initial reports of casualties. These developments are more than worrying."

That is the reality of Germanys position and shows how completely beyond reason they are. Israel starts an unprecedented attack on Iran, bombs residential areas killing dozens of civillians and Germany calls that "self defense" while condemning the counter-attack as "indiscriminate" hours before anything arrives in Israel. Germany is a complete joke when it comes to upholding international law.

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