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i think this topic has about run its course in terms of productiveness, and has mostly devolved into people complaining about being held to (objectively correct) vegan ethics. locking
TL;DR, they physiology is pretty similar to someone filling your lungs with a saline solution, but slower because they're cold blooded.
When you consider this, that most plastic comes from fishing, and that modern day slavery is heavily present in it (no police on a boat, and hard to escape) I actually have more respect for meat eaters than pescitarians. Don't eat seafood, folks.
Was that ever up for debate? I mean, what do people believe happens when one takes a creature adapted to breathing through water out of said water?
Apparently it's a common myth that fish don't feel pain. I think it's because they show pain differently than mammals (for example, if a salmon let down an ear-shattering shierk when caught, I think we'd think differently) and people don't want to think about it.
People also believe that goldfish have no memory, and insects don't think or even aren't alive. You'll notice the common thread of these exonerating us for our tiny bowls and our swatting.
It's like the modern version of "animals don't have a soul".
My dad is adamant that fish don't feel pain. He just heard it from someone when he was young, and accepted it as fact because it made him feel better as a fishing enthusiast.
An example of a convenient lie when it suits humans.
Well, if he is a responsible fishing enthusiast, he should be putting the fish out of its misery by stunning it in the head right away. As mentioned in the article, this is still the best way to ensure that the fish don't suffer
they don't want to think about it, or they directly think that all animals doesn't feel pain (or that the pain they suffer it's not important because they are just animals and "we as humans, are above them".
As a kid I liked to go fishing with my step father, and we (or at least I) never thought about what the fish felt, as they were so different to us, and they taught us that this was normal and fun.
It was years later that I really thought about it.
Some fishing magazines downplay what the fish experience before being murdered.
'It's OK kids, they're made out of styrofoam. They can't actually feel any pain'
The 2 trillion figure is the minimum: it could be more than 6 trillion every year, and the elephant in the room is that more than half of those are factory farmed - which means humans are responsible for torturing them their entire lives.
"for the animals, it is an eternal Treblinka" - Isaac Bashevis Singer
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this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2025
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