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[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and maybe someone else: No! We like the situation as it is.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Wait, which EU country is China threatening?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Every other country by being the fastest arming country in the world? And also being a dictatorship.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

and also buying other countries infrastructure (ports, sewers, etc) and supplying backdoored communication infrastructure

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

developing the global south is a win in my book, but backdoors are obviously bad, though it seems less of a downside than what the west provides

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

they aren't just doing that in the global south tho. they do it in EU too, for example

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

What am I meant to say? They shouldn't have bought Chinese or privatised their infrastructure if it was that big of a deal

Besides, the only solution is local alternatives, USA does the same as China

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

What am I meant to say?

you're not meant to say anything specific. this is how freedom works.

They shouldn't have bought Chinese or privatised their infrastructure if it was that big of a deal

you're right, they shouldn't have, but corruption is unfortunately a thing and now what you wrote feels a bit like victim blaming πŸ˜„

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

The victim is the government and they usually have a board to talk things through, it would be different if it was an individual decision

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

So the US also threatens the whole of the the world by being the most heavily armed county in the world and also slipping into a dictatorship right?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

...yes? Was that in question?

[-] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago

Not a question exactly, more of questioning the implicit bias towards US hegemony.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

"Whatabout the USA"

It's so tiring everything critical of russia or china being immediately met with that fallacy "argument".

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well sorry, but I am from Eastern Europe, I am regularly fucked by US and Russian political interests, while the only local things connected to China are how many factories are built.... So yeah fuck the US.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I'm tired of "but when america does it it's ok???"-"arguments. No, it's not. It never was. But that's not the fucking argument when we're talking about China or Russia. And the same is true vice versa. Leave it, ffs!

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

China is doing a lot of sneaky stuff in the EU (and elsewhere), like operating illegal police stations or have state owned companies acquire critical infrastructure.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

operating illegal police stations

No evidence of secret Chinese police stations

have state owned companies acquire critical infrastructure

Europe privatizing its critical infrastructure and trading their controlling shares on the open market is not "Chinese" problem.

What's more, it certainly isn't a military threat, when the capital itself is still firmly within the sovereign domain of the host country. European states are well within their power to re-nationalize these privatized companies. They just won't do that because it threatens the interests of their domestic oligarchs who own the preponderance of outstanding shares.

this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2025
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