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[–] 60 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Don't understand how they made it this long.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    I switched to Joplin a few years ago from Evernote and haven't looked back. Take control of your own notes - Joplin is open source and has clients for every platform, and imports notebooks from Evernote.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Or Obsidian? Take actual control over them including rendering if you want to customize that.

    Maybe it's a different use case 🤔

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    Obsidian is closed source, so once the company dies, no one can modify the app. Joplin on the other hand is open source.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago*

    What I really like about Obsidian is that it stores your notes as plain text/markdown files on your computer. So you always have access to them, even without Obsidian itself. Markdown is also a fairly common format, so it shouldn't be too hard to move them somewhere else later.

    But your concerns are still valid and I generally also prefer free open source software.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Different use cases, indeed. All I need is plaintext, images, and in-line pdf rendering. No audio, no video, no LaTeX, not even italics or bold.

    Now, to be completely fair, while Joplin is great for simple notes, it’s data entry modes are weird AF. I assume, in a programmers mind, the operation is normal for an IDE as it can’t/won’t render links/objects in line with editing. You either get a markup-only window that’s editable, a rendered window that is read only, or lose half your screen to a split-view version. These options are selected via two, separate, unlabeled, non-status-indicating toggle buttons which cycle through 2 and 3 versions if the view.

    Aside from that, it seems nice.

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    [–] 35 points 3 years ago (23 children)

    I forgot Evernote was still a thing. Used it for a short while back in 2012 when there were not many decent note taking apps.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (19 children)

    Ever since I discovered LogSeq and Obsidian, I stopped checking out other note-taking software

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I’ve been using Logseq at work and I LOOOOVE it.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    LogSeq

    I never heard of it until now. I'm a veteran of trying out and dumping so many note taking solutions. I'm certain to try this one, too! Maybe I'll finally find The One.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It’s a timeline approach. So, I just enter notes for each day. I’ve developed a habit of just putting things down when I need, including random stuff, links to Slack conversations, etc. I then use tags to bind things together, and there are a couple of plugins in use.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    I installed it and took a quick look. It reminds me of Obsidian's approach. I got excited about that, too, but I found it very burdensome to use in practice. What I need is a sort of life log that grabs a lot of stuff quietly from integrations and that I can then further augment (for things like meeting notes). The problem with all of these graph approaches (for me) is that they become burdensome to manage.

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    [–] 29 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Years ago I was a paid Evernote user. The app kept displaying ads on startup trying to get me to pay even more for the “higher tier”. Right then and there I knew the company was dead.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    Not only that, but they kept adding features and telling me about it. I was paying for their existing features, and yet half the time I would go to add a note and by the time I clicked through their "we did something you probably don't care about" popups, I'd forget what I wanted to note.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago

    There is a recent thread discussing Evernote alternatives at https://beehaw.org/post/986939

    Personally I exported my notes from Evernote, imported them to Joplin, and setup Syncthing to handle synchronization of note content between my devices. Not exactly a trivial setup but not difficult either. Also fully open source and much more secure.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I mean… haven’t they been surviving purely on inertia for a while already?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    They had my inertia. I moved from free to $25/yr. Then watched as it crept up to $60/yr with basically zero improvements. I bailed at $120/yr for a terrible transition to a new db style that could only be updated in real time as you opened each note (taking 3-45 seconds per note to update) and a promised AI component for which I have no use.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    Inertia was carrying me as well. First it was $35 for premium, then $70 for several years, and then last month they announced it was going up to $130 and that's when I bailed.

    At $70 it wasn't too bad and I stayed the last year or so also because they actually published a native Linux app that worked on par with the Windows and macOS app. I won't say it worked great because since they moved it all to Electron or whatever it's been slow/clunky all around. But at least it was available and consistent.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    And that is why I self-host as much as I can

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    What's a good self hosted thinking like Evernote?

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    [–] 13 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Once Apple overhauled Notes a few years ago AND offered a way to import from Evernote, I never looked back. For anyone in Apple’s ecosystem Notes is one of the best (and completely free or cheap on any iCloud+ plan).

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    I gave my resume to Bending Spoons and they didn’t hire me, so fuck them And fuck them for the layoffs, they have people working from home so relocating seems like an excuse

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    Holy shit someone tell danny brown to save his raps

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    I didn't even know Evernote was still a think. I thought it had died years ago

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    Surprised they still had all that programmers for something that's still stuck in the year 2014

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    I hadn't heard about Evernote in years. Honestly thought they'd gone under years ago.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Everyone here are so cool with fancy open source alterantives. I've been basic and been using Notion for all my med school notes and beyond and while it's been mostly great the few episodes of outages have been so frustrating. Wish there were some easy to use solutions with all the text formatting options Notion has.

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    As much as I love obsidian, I've been moving on to Emacs org-mode! I like that Obsidian notes are just text files but with org-mode I get that and it's Emacs which is open-source, thirty years old and literally never going to die. I can export org-mode files to PDFs or even turn them into HTML pages.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    I finally bailed on it this year.

    I have this suspicion that it might survive even this though, it's been through so much over the years

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Man, I saw something about the other day and it doesn’t make me feel good about still having some work notes in Evernote. I’m going to have to find an alternative, but I need collaboration and low cost (cuz my company is cheap AF). And I know those two things don’t usually go together.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Anyone know a good alternative for storing PDFs with preview and search?

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    [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    significant boost in operational efficiency that will come as a consequence of centralizing operations in Europe.

    On one hand, this is understandable. My employer recently went through similar learnings and dealt with this equally.

    But if the whole know-how of the code and platform needs to be shifted over, this is an awful lot of risk and problems. Maybe they already did the transition. Who knows.

    I don't think they intend to shutdown the service, but I wouldn't be surprised if the service gets more and more unstable, progresses slower than before and thereby slowly dies off with the competitors speeding ahead.

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