As much as I hate what the Switch 2 represents for the industry, this has been a great reminder to ignore the hundreds of YouTube videos that proclaimed, "Switch 2 is DOA," and that this was, "Nintendo's downfall!"
WiiU sold out at launch too. The launch sales aren’t nearly as important as the holiday sales and beyond for the health of the generation. Now that all the hardcore fans bought a switch 2. Are the families with switch lites gonna buy it? The casual gamers who only play Mario kart and already have switch 1 and mk8dx gonna buy it?
I mean, even at launch, the Wii U's numbers were sluggish, and the Wii U launched during the holidays. It's very early, and there could be a huge drop off, but this doesn't appear to be a Wii U situation.
So much clickbait.
Yeah, YouTube creators have really figured out that negativity will get more clicks than positivity, so everything is, "finished," or, "over," before it even comes out.
I was just thinking, if we had UBI, would we have so many people trying to scam people into clicking their video, so they could make a few bucks from views?
Remember when the Xbox One announced that always on shit and people thought it was going to kill the brand and make MS drop out of the console wars? That was far stupider than what Nintendo is doing now, and they still survived.
It's crazy how quickly everyone forgot about the Wii U.
History is repeating itself. One all the hardcore Nintendo fans who buy every console have a Switch 2, sales are going to fall off a cliff.
It's crazy how quickly you forgot about what came after the Wii U. Such a big "downfall".
As I said to the last person who said the exact same thing, even at launch, the Wii U's numbers were sluggish. It was considered a decent start, but it still sold fewer units than the Wii in terms of opening week sales, and it launched just before the holidays. It's too early to say, but breaking the all-time record for opening day sales is a pretty good sign that this is going to be a different story than the Wii U.
For the record, I hope I'm wrong. I hope this is a flop for Nintendo, and it forces them to go back to making innovative hardware at more affordable prices with physical games that you actually own. That could still happen, but this very early data point doesn't point that way, and it is not indicative of a second Wii U.
I'm personally pretty bummed by this news. This isn't $450(+tax) worth of console, IMO. They went backwards in some areas (no OLED screen??) and simply refused to make much-needed improvements in others (no Hall effect sticks??).
I was really hoping the Switch 2 would go the way of the 3DS, with a disappointing launch that caused Nintendo to bring the price back down to Earth.
I simply don't understand why people want to spend $500+ to play Mario Kart. At this point, I've just gotta accept the fact that it's not a ~~consult~~ console - or a brand - for me.
EDIT: "consult" to "console"; keeping it as strikethrough to preserve the joke/accurate point in the reply.
You know full well they're going to release an OLED model to get more sales in a few years time.
I think it IS a consult, if you remove the "ons".
Man, I think the whimsy inside me died. I was in line at midnight to pick up my switch on launch night, but I wasn't even aware the switch 2 had come out.
Honestly it's somehow a worse launch than the switch. While the switch basically only had WiiU games at least most people hadn't played them (I mean BOTW will always be a switch game even if it was also released on the WiiU).
But all we really have for the foreseeable future is Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong. That's not a lot for the initial release year.
Just doesn't seem worth the money.
I think people are forgetting just how tiny the Switch launch lineup was.
That was about it. There was a reason eshop shovelware title Vroom in the Night Sky somehow got tons of coverage from major outlets and gaming YouTubers: there was almost literally nothing else to play for weeks.
Yeah, but it also had the following by the first holiday season:
So the switch got a new Zelda and Mario game for the first year, plus a Mario kart. Switch 2 is just getting a new Donkey Kong and Mario Kart (and I guess Metroid Prime 4 although that's cross platform). And no I don't count Kirby Air riders as a big game.
Why do you not count Kirby Air Riders? Some of us have been waiting 22 years for this sequel, it's a very big deal.
Probably cause I'm a bit biased, but also because it's not really what I would consider a system mover. The original apparently only sold 1.3 million units - https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Kirby.
Also, we're already getting Mario kart world, so two racers on release just seems odd.
Keep in mind that's all relative to the Gamecube, Air Ride was one of the platform's more successful titles. But more importantly it also went on to become a cult hit long after its release, one that Kirby fans have been clamoring for a sequel to for a very long time.
The fact that Masahiro Sakurai himself is directing the sequel, after not having been involved with Kirby since the original Air Ride, is kind of a big deal. And I fully expect marketing to play up his star power and promote the fact that this is A Masahiro Sakurai Game. Anything Sakurai's name is attached to is automatically going to be big.
There's a reason Nintendo saved this one for the end of the Direct with a cinematic teaser trailer. We'll see more closer to release, but there is no doubt that they are going to market this game very hard as a flagship title, much more heavily than they marketed the original.
You're right that for the GameCube, that's puts it as the 25th best selling game, but it had 1/5th the sales of Double Dash (while being released in the opposite ordering, Kirby in July and Double Dash in November).
While I agree that Sakurai directing it is a big deal for some, I don't think the general consumer cares. I suspect that what will make it sell is that there is little competition from the switch 2 perspective.
But time will tell in this case.
I would argue that what counts as a "big game" really just comes down to how much Nintendo invests in it. In terms of budget, Sakurai gets a blank check to do whatever he wants, this will be a much bigger game than the original. In terms of marketing, this was a Direct-closer. Nintendo will make consumers care about this game.
That's fair, I do think there are easier and harder games to hype though.
When you have Breath of the Wild, you don't really need anything else to play for weeks. For some people, that's probably true for Mario Kart as well. For me, it's really just an upgrade without any hype attached to it.
I’m finally playing TOTK, now that it’s not a stuttery mess. Also looking forward to Metroid Prime 4 later this year.
But just in general, it’s nice to have a more powerful machine with a bigger, nicer screen to play thru my old library.
That's fair, given how they're treating backwards compatibility, it almost feels like they released a switch pro.
However, with a steamdeck I've already got a bigger screen with a much larger backlog. That might be a part of my hesitance on the switch 2, almost all of the games coming out are already playable on a mobile system.
I agree the Steam Deck is a better option for many people but the screen on Switch 2 is larger than Steam Deck.
For the short term I see the Switch 2 as just a better Switch. The games I couldn’t play due to frame rate are now playable (a very much throw money at the problem solution). But otherwise I agree, the Switch 2 library is pretty thin and it’s not worth the money currently. There’s only so much Mario Kart one can play and everything else is cross platform at a premium price.
Like Cyberpunk is cool but I already have it on Steam. And I certainly don’t fancy paying the switch 2 tax for the new Rune Factory and Fantasy Life. Fantasy Life literally has a “because we can” fee lol. It’s £2.50 to upgrade to the S2 edition ffs!
I've been mostly enjoying my switch 2 so far. MKs price is pretty bad. DEFINITELY not worth 80. Wish they had some better launch titles too. Looking forward to DK, Metroid, PKMN ZA, and Duskbloods.
The people complaining have high expectations because they know the current tech and what its capable of being.
When I see people justifying how its actually so good I am reminded that Nintendo fans are the reason why Nintendo acts the way they do. Why would nintendo go the extra mile to make something truely next gen when they can just make a switch 1 with a current gen CPU and a cheaper display.
When does the next shipment go out? I missed my chance on launch day...
I like my switch 2. I've been having fun playing Mario kart world. I really like the new pro controller. I really like that switch 2 can play all my switch games that I have tried so far. I was not bothered by the price one bit. The people with negative opinions about the system are the biggest crybabies that don't have the system and think only their opinion exists. The other comments on here of people trying to argue that no it's actually not good need to go play something else. Nintendo captures a huge part of the gaming market but not the most hardcore of gamers. This is nothing new.
Just like good little capitalist cattle, even when the company shits on you all the time
Midwestern housewife who just bought one for their kid: "what controversy?"
Boycott for your own moral fiber, it's the only benefit.
That’s not really doing anything to change my opinion
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