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[-] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

Nah.

Circular logic is a self referencing fallacy.

The Bible is true because the Bible says it's true.

A self-fulfilling prophecy is a thing that becomes true because of a belief.

I'm never going to get a date.

If one believes that, it will almost certainly become true. This works for positive beliefs as well.

I'm going to score a big job this year.

Telling yourself these things often leads to taking action to verify the belief.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Telling yourself these things often leads to taking action to verify the belief.

Some real Aunt Wu energy.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It happens to be true. We can brainwash ourselves into accomplishing great feats. What was that dumb book, The Secret, something like that? About imagining good things into your life? Take away the foo-foo and it works.

Keep telling yourself you will accomplish a thing, your brain starts working to make that happen, whether you believe it or not in the moment. It's along the lines of talking someone up, granting them success they haven't earned. Say someone has anger issues, telling them how nice it is that they're always so calm makes them live up to that. Works a charm on kids.

Obviously you can't win $1M on the lottery that way, no bending time and space, but you could say, "I'll be in a position in life to make $1M." Helps a lot if you write it down, lots, daily.

Always held that LSD works for so many mental issues it that it lets you take your brain out and rejigger it.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Yep. Aunt Wu. People would live to her prophecies ("She said I'll be wearing red shoes when I meet my true love so I always wear red shoes"). But they would also let it be an excuse to not work at something for themselves ('I'm wearing red shoes so my part is done").

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

The bottom comment is 1000% AI.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sort order for comments isn't consistent across instances or apps or users or time.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized that @[email protected] is probably referring to the bottom comment in the image.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's an example of a feedback system.

If people actually want to understand how most systems in life work, they should take sociology and various humanities and science courses, but everyone should take a course on mathematical Systems Analysis including feedback loops and transfer functions.

Virtually every system we encounter in day to day life, from biological ones, to sociological ones, are feedback loops, and understanding the nuances and complexities of how they work, how to analyze them when cause and effect is circular, and how their output changes and can stabilize, destabilize, oscillate, etc. makes a lot of things less confusing.

Feedback circuits can be used to make amplifiers that amplify or deamplify a signal a certain amount, they can be used to make amplifiers that amplify rapidly to catastrophic of explosive failure, or dampeners that will try and reduce any signal to nothing, they can be used to make oscillators that pulse rhythmically at a certain frequency and are the heart of all clock circuits, or they can be used to always hold a steady output regardless of disturbances to their inputs like in gyroscopes and control systems and governors that always try and stay on target... And these are just simple feedback systems created out of a few components by humans, nature's feedback systems that have evolved over billions of years are wildly more complex.

Circular systems like this can't be examined through traditional cause and effect logic chains, but they can be analyzed as a system as a whole.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Failure to understand this leads to no end of argument from unproductive ideological or political positions. People want to take one cause in the loop or system and focus blame on that particular group or circumstance. Blame is so counterproductive for solving most of our problems, but our culture is just increasingly programmed for it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Don't make me believe this is the kind of talk that's going on Twitter.

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