You just reminded me of why Y2K era nostalgia makes me ill.

I was working part time in a mall and heard all this shit on repeat, and my co-workers were quoting The Chappelle Show because it was ok to be racist if a black guy said it first.

I was a roller skating rink DJ when Shake Ya Tailfeather came out. It had the place so hyped up I had security tell me to cut the song off before it finished. People jumping up amd dancing on tables and shit. It was wild. That song was definitely a banger.

Well, I should have clarified by devs, I mean the entire companies, not the individuals. It's a collective problem, not an individual one.

Yeah, they laid out the bait and got them hook, line and sinker.

Because you need to dig into the rendering engine to do that, and if you didn't build it yourself you might not be able to do that easily

Wow, I didn't know that, that's genuinely cool.

In my opinion, the fidelity is getting worse than what we had 10 or 20 years ago. Because now we have noise, pop-in, and the temporal smearing because of proprietary TAA and TSA. Example being Payday 3 and this new Justice League or Batman game where you play with the four characters, Which I couldn't bother to remember, Because everything about the game is way worse than the Arkham Knight game, which almost is 10 years old by now.

Well Half-Life Alyx uses forward rendering and has a brilliant MSAA implementation. It is optimised because it needs to be. You cannot have this thing chugging along with 30Hz at full HD. You need 4K or more running at 90Hz or more. So they invested a good amount of time into making sure it functions properly before releasing it.

Also, foliage really doesn't need to be fixed, if it is done properly. Example, 20 year old games like Halo 3 or the Crysis games.

I take issue with modern games because why the hell are they forgetting lessons of the past? Crysis and Halo 3 for example are 20 years old and they have better looking foliage than most modern games because they know what to do to avoid pop-in and noise. Yes, modern games have more foliage, because more VRAM, but older games have better looking foliage, due to the lack of wonky artifacts, in my opinion. And also, the proprietary TAA implementations, or TSR implementations, in my experience, add a ton of input latency, which makes the game feel worse. MSAA, because it uses geometry information to build AA, enhances image quality significantly and gives a better looking and more coherent picture than any other implementation of anti-aliasing, including proprietary TSR. Also, MSAA isn't my religion, I realise that there are some aspects where TAA and TSR can be useful, but problem is, in modern games it gets abused because devs can then say "we'll just do the absolute minimum, make sure the game executes on hardware at HD 30 Hz, and then we'll just let the magic TSR and frame generation handle the rest".

Well, the problem with MSAA is that it needs to have good geometry in the first place if quad overdraw is complete shit because no one bothered to make tessellation or proper LOD models and let just some automatic tool handle everything without any supervision, then yes, it will be horrible. If devs say, "it makes my geometry timing horrible", then we already know that their geometries are utter rubbish.

Also a brilliant example of why I'm bothered by that is Payday 3 because it looks like a late PS3 game and runs like complete trash and has a massive CPU bottleneck, no matter what you do, even if you doctor around with the engine settings themselves.

Easy to not have artifacting when everything is a big smudge.

Fair, but I'm mostly interested in how they feel about modern AAA games, with their path tracing and HDR support and whatnot.

And 3D was the "AI" of those times. They had to bring it to EVERYTHING. Micro Machines (a top view toy car racer)? We'll make it 3D, buy a card. Frogger? Yupp, Frogger 3D. They even tried to force 3D on poor Worms in 2003. I still prefer Worms World Party/Armageddon.