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So every once in a while an article will float around or someone at a talk will say something along the lines of "hey, turns out that the communist leaders actually believe in communism."

(I wouldn't reccomend reading/watching the first two links here. The last one is fine)

There's this article by Jacobin:https://jacobin.com/2025/02/xi-jinping-ideology-china-rivalry/

"Importantly, Rudd argues that CPC ideology is not an elite parlor game, a rhetorical weapon, a pragmatic means of control, or an analytical framework. Or rather, it isn’t just all those things. It is also, Rudd argues, genuinely believed."

There's this bit from Sarah Paine:https://youtu.be/KSCH6svGRFM

"Don't ever kid yourself that the communist party of china [hey look she said the name correctly] doesn't believe in communism"

And part of this lecture by Stephan Kotkin: https://youtu.be/sXutg47BwEU

"It turns out the communists, were communists" (this is at the very end of the video)

I find it funny that either the vast majority who claim to know so much about china/ussr etc. Who claim that the communists weren't communists show themselves to have no investigative capabilities, or that in the liberal world it's just expected that people will constantly betray their ideology for personal gain

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

My circle is so libbed up that they won’t even accept “yeah Stalin bad but I think it’s fair to say he genuinely believed what he said.”

[-] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The vibe in the west is definitely "if you earnestly believe in anything you're a rube or mentally ill, only nihilistic cynicism coated in irony sets you apart as an intelligent, civilized person us-foreign-policy.

I'm not surprised that in the garbage time of history, the venn diagram of anticommunism and xenophobia now includes "those crazy foreign zealot commies actually mean what they say."

[-] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago

This is probably because liberals don't actually believe in liberalism.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

How could they? To believe in liberalism is to believe in a paradox. Protection of Private property is antithetical to equality. Liberals don't exist people are either fascists, crypto-fascists, ignorant, or comrades. And social democrats are not people (this is a joke. really they are a mix of ignorant and crypto -fascists)

[-] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

Evil expects evil of others.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

A thief believes everyone steals.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

getting a sarah paine reel while doom scrolling is what gets me to finally stop and do literally anything else

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I found YouTube links in your post. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

Link 1:

Link 2:

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