I just code in Notepad++. I make an error, I fix it. It doesn't work, I just dump variables to see what I did wrong and where.
This is why everyone should go back to ed
Before I started reading the meme I actually thought "just use Notepad++".
I can't live without VIM keybinds. Maybe I'm a boomer. I do use it as a note taking or "collect my thoughts" app. Or just a place to paste shit when I'm working. Very useful for that. Though only when I'm forced to be on Windows.
I've had everything on this list with Visual Studio alone, with the exception of #2 maybe.
All the AI shit they're adding, plus the millions of windows you can pull up that are all hidden in different places. The only way this is remotely usable is with the search.
This happens every other day when working with Blazor. As an added bonus, it can never decide on spacing and will constantly change it.
Probably a symptom of using legacy code and modern code at the same time, but good god the settings for everything are in a million places.
Another symptom of blazor.
Our project is too big.
You should refer to Visual Studio by its full title: "Visual Studio (not responding)".
Also using 10GB memory ...
Hah, per window.
Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled
Unless you need to work on a solution with more than a few projects, such as Unity games. Then the LSPs go haywire and eat 20+Gb of memory, while not actually working.
Which, ofc, is Microsoft's fault, since it's their analyzer that has had the bug for years now. Rider didn't have that problem, but it shits itself when you change branches. You can't win :(
For a few files, sure. Idk how I'd use that on the large corporate Java codebase that I usually work with though. Despite all its memory hogging and unnecessary features, IntelliJ also proves remarkably useful when trying to find anything in these mega projects. Features like ctrl + clicking on a method call to get to its definition (even when it is in a different project that I don't have checked out), the refactoring tools, the debugger, etc are absolutely necessary to get anything done.
IIRC vi has been installed, or perhaps tinyvim, then I always go and install vim-gtk
vim fast, IDE slow, I use vim because I'm impatient
VSCode is the first development environment I’ve used that doesn’t make me feel like this. It’s not perfect but the base application is rock solid and the full DE experience is the more reliable than any other DE I’ve used.
P.S. I specifically said DE for those people who say VSCode isn’t an IDE. Personally I don’t see the point in differentiating.
P.P.S. Sublime is not a DE in my opinion. It’s an excellent text editor with syntax highlighting. The plugins were an afterthought and it was never intended to provide the full experience. Granted I haven’t used it in years.
VSCode is by far and away the best thing Microsoft has ever done. (I'm sure therefore they will ruin it eventually, but that's a separate issue)
Its good for two main reasons IMO:
It is plugin-based
It is (therefore) language-agnostic
Plugins mean the DE starts as a very lightweight thing that is basically nothing more than a text editor. You can then add as much or as little as you want to get the level of features you are comfortable with but without being too bloated.
And then, because it's all plugins, you can work with any language and still stay within the same editor. Divine.
I personally love how lightweight it is compared to a full IDE because I don't like it when IDEs hide the magic behind UI. Press the button and it compiles huh? But how? What's going on there? What toolchain and commands are being executed?
I much prefer a good MAKEFILE where you know what your entry points are and what is going on, because it makes everything so much more portable and also improves your own knowledge and understanding.
Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/378/
I use Jetbrains IDEs now for 5 years, I've used VSCode, Sublime, Atom, Vim, Neovim but I feel like Jetbrains IDEs are just better if you have the RAM to run it.
So it's not all bad, but comes with a lot of good such as "invert if statement", "use template strings" and "extract method" thingies along with a load of plugins.
I'm so spoiled by searchable settings that it feels like I'm back in the 50s if I actually have to manually click around menus looking for a setting.
Oh, you get the benefit of explicit scanning?
We get the beauty of every file that's modified being scanned before the write "completes". It's an absolute joy starting a build and watching ~80% of the available compute be consumed by antivirus software.
Or, you know, normal filesystem caching as part of your tool's workflow.
Or dependency installing and unpacking....
Or anything actually that touches a lot of files.
I just use Kate
XCode would randomly stop syntax highlighting for years because their engineering was so shit.
In the JetBrains IDEs (which, relatively speaking, I like), I have to use "Invalidate caches and restart" several times a day just to get past all the incorrect error highlighting.
Ah, is that the way to address that? I don't run into incorrect error highlighting often, and it's mostly great, but when it gets it wrong, it can be very stubborn about it.
Definitely #1. I've encountered #2 with a very specific IDE and #4 and #5 on occasion.
The IDE is the worst part of being an iOS developer.
Yes, and the worst part is that XCode is only available on OSX.
I once had to make an iOS app once and didn't have a Mac so I developed the entire thing in a VM. There was no video encoding, the FPS was in the low single digits, which made it very difficult to even type. So I ended up writing the code using VSCode through SSH through Wireguard connected to the VM on the host machine, which actually worked surprisingly well. But hey, the app did work in the end.
No, no they are not.
Bad ones? Yeah, just like that.
It's almost enough to make me feel nostalgic for the DOS version of Borland Turbo Pascal, which wasn't bright enough to do any of this stuff. (Well, it could freeze up, I suppose, but the only time I actually managed to do anything like that, it involved a null pointer dereference that would have triggered a segfault on any modern system.)
Sublime Text + sometimes LSP is all you need. It might be difficult for people who don't know how to use a build system directly, but those people are underachievers anyways.
None of those issues for my main IDE, though Rider on some occasions do get stuck marking some spelling errors after they are fixed.
It has stuttered a few times, but pretty rare. But it does have a bug where it think it is building a project, but isn't. And requires a restart to fix... Easy to trigger if you try building a project while it's loading the project...
Visual Stuido with Resharper is the one where things would randomly stop working though. Especially hotkeys would sometimes stop working until I restarted it. Slow and stutter too.
I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.
basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
Nah, there is:
So even though things are buried somewhere deep, it's easy to find them.
freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
Sounds like a ~~skill~~ hardware issue tbh.
#1 and 3, definitely, although 3 is usually not really the IDEs fault.
The others, either not really (#2, 5), who cares, (#4), or maybe occasionally but not really specific to IDEs (#6).
How is #6 not specific to IDEs? I've never had vim, np++, or any other dedicated editor freeze; and I've used them to edit multi-gigabyte log files before.
Yeah, IntelliJ has become worse over time. Or atleast Android Studio has. IntelliJ used to be amazing.
IntelliJ now requires like 8GiB of RAM to even open.
Isn't the JVM limited to 2 GB or something like that?
At least the number of times I have to use the Clean Java Language Workspace in VS Code has declined recently. I mean, I still have to, just not as often.
Neovim >>> any ide
I'd argue the benefits outweigh the downsides
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