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Last spring, Carmelo Mendez was pruning peach trees in Colorado on a temporary visa, missing his children and wife back home, but excited about how his $17.70 hourly wage would improve their lives. This spring, he’s back in the Mexican state of Tlaxcala frantically searching Facebook for a job on one of the thousands of farms across the US that primarily employ guest workers like him.

Mendez is one of the more than 300,000 foreign agricultural workers who comes to the US every year on an H-2A visa, which allows him to temporarily work plowing fields, pruning trees and harvesting crops in states from Washington to Georgia, Florida to New York, Texas to California. But as federal immigration policies change rapidly, farmers and workers alike are uncertain about their future.

“Without [this guest worker program], I believe agriculture in the US would decline a lot because people there don’t want to do the work,” Mendez said.

As the fate of the hundreds of thousands of undocumented farm workers remains in limbo amid Donald Trump’s mass deportation threats, and the administration’s H-2A policies are undecided, the future of these guest workers remains unclear. Their numbers grow each year – and they are increasingly central to an industry historically dominated by undocumented workers. The industry isn’t creating new jobs either.

Farmers agree with farm workers like Mendez. They say they cannot attract other workers to their rural fields.

Is ag work what we're gearing up for with private prisons?

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Is ag work what we’re gearing up for with private prisons?

Slave labor is what prisons have been about in the US the whole time.

And in my opinion Trump wants a hungry populace. Trump wants, in my opinion, to create a revolt so that he can kill Americans. Trump, in my opinion, will also dissolve the USA. Governors cause Trump too much trouble so he will, in my opinion, fire them and make a 1000 counties with rich douche bags as the county directors that must report to Trump directly, in my opinion.

It is like no one actually read Project 2025.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Everyone I told about P25 told me I was delusional and a conspiracy theorist. Nobody who isnt already paying attention wont believe it til it's too late.

My partner's parents just retired and they do not believe the upcoming SS cuts will affect them because they arent on medicaid. It's frustrating to say the least

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

It is like no one actually read Project 2025.

Pffh, we're only 40% there /s

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It used to be said that Marie Antoinette was so out of touch as to say when the starving peasants have no bread to "let them eat cake", and that the people took quite poorly to that response. I wonder what the gold plated halls of Trump tower will look like when he makes the same mistake.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

They will kiss his ass harder hoping for a nugget to drop out. The media environment back in the French revolution days was not controlled by the ruling class.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Marie Antoinette didn't have the foresight to first divide the populace into groups and pin them against eachother.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Crops? No-one wants to eat that. Let them eat McDonald's.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I think a key distinction is that it's likely not that people don't want to do the work. It's likely unfavorable to do the work. If the incentive was high, people would do it.

For foreign workers, the money earned goes much further. So, working a job like that seems like a blessing. But for someone living in the area, the job (likely?) doesn't pay enough to live.

I don't really know what the solution is, but it's something that has always rubbed me the wrong way. People should be paid well for their work. Regardless of the job you do, you deserve a livable wage, healthcare, etc.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

It's more basic than that to my mind, which you touch on in graf 3.

This model of "I fucking own you" between employers and employees sifts what people are willing to put up with. Add shitty outdoor conditions, and it's easy to see why anything else would look better.

At least there's air-conditioning at McDonald's.

Employers seem to forget that many of us remember less-shitty circumstances, and, holy shit, do they get irritated when there's any expectation that the American Dream includes doing better than your parents. Even sole-proprietors who got in before the lower rungs were removed and refuse to believe the same opportunities aren't available as they task you with pointless things just to enjoy being in control while you can't afford housing.

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