No one ever told us what it's like because we're men. We're not supposed to have feelings, especially feelings adjacent to fear. We're meant to be rocks and shells of human beings.
Learning to cry again after my transition has been incredibly liberating.
Our parents' generations also didn't go through anything even remotely as bad as what we're dealing with today.
Except, you know... the imminent nuclear threath of the Cold War and the Chernobyl disaster.
They had very effective placebos to deal with it, like "duck and cover" and "Jesus"
I mean, my parents survived Russian occupation of Poland... And my grandparents experienced WW2, invasion by Axis powers and betrayal by the West after the war which led to the Russian occupation of Poland... I think it's a bit disingenuous to say we're going through more.
Truthfully this was the first point in my life where I realized I had a problem. I had horrific panic attacks for about a three month period that were extremely disabling.
When I had my first panic attack 13 years ago I honestly thought I was dying. Called an ambulance (luckily I live in a country where that cost nothing) and lay in the ER for an hour before being sent home. Even the second panic attack a couple of weeks later had me thinking that I was about to die, so I called the bulance again. Panic attacks suck and it takes much learning and therapy to understand how to handle them.
Been there, done that. Over a decade later and I'm not fully over it and still on some medication. Don't be stupid like I was. Take care of yourself, get enough sleep and avoid toxic people.
The current social order is designed to cause stress, prolonged exposure to stress will result in a panic attack.
People should not be experiencing constant fight or flight.
It'd be interesting to see what average cortisol levels are now in humans compared to previous times in history.
Oh I have an algorithm for troubleshooting this that I use for my psych patients but it does still require one initial doctors assessment the first time it happens to rule out cardiopulmonary causes. ~~I'm on my phone so I can't type it out right now though and I won't have time to until later tonight.~~ It's how to make sure it's still just anxiety and that it hasn't turned into a heart or lung problem (there's also a secret third thing!).
ok so if you have chest pain or shortness of breath you go get that checked out the first time. And this is separately like if you got your chest pain checked out then later you have shortness of breath, you go get the shortness of breath checked out. But if you're having the same symptoms you've had checked out before and you're just thinking to yourself "but what if this time it is something???" Here's what you do.
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Call a friend and either ask them to come hang out or just tell them your address and ask them to stay on the line with you for a bit.
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Engage in some kind of light physical activity that is either mundane or pleasant and takes your mind off the discomfort. So fold clothes while chatting with the friend, or go for a walk while talking to them. If the pain doesn't go away or especially if it gets worse with physical activity, then you go get it checked out. And if it's real bad and you become incapacitated, the friend can call an ambulance for you. But the most likely thing that will happen is that when you're distracted and the movement gets your blood and respiratory system lightly circulating, the pain will go away.
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The secret third thing is heartburn / acid reflux. If you start having chest pain that's a little more on the burning side, or especially if it happens right after you've eaten junk food or when you haven't eaten in a while or in the morning right before or after breakfast (basically some kind of food-related pattern) try some pepto or tums, or if you don't have those, try some 0% fat / skim milk (any fat would digest into more acid, the aim is to just use the water and calcium). Cold water on it's own also isn't a bad option. Anxiety is actually a super common heartburn trigger for people who have both, and people who have had legit heart attacks sometimes get the sensations confused. I actually get a fair number of patients reporting chest pain that gets written off as anxiety when it's found to be non-cardiogenic, and even a lot of healthcare professionals forget to also rule out gastrointestinal causes.
Hope this helps!
As a man who's been on SSRIs for almost 7 years I can't recommend them enough. Second only to THC.
Unfortunately that's a hard pass on the THC. It actually can cause panic attacks.
I loved smoking weed, but it was always a major trigger for a panic attack unless I did 50%+ CBD bud and 50% low/med THC bud. Eventually it got so bad that no matter how much CBD I used I would still get panic attacks.
Anxiety sucks... :(
Yeah weed can amplify paranoia when taking a high dose for your tolerance.
I had a roomate that ate my 200mg of cookies and had a panic attack
Low doses and CBD are usually ok for sensitive people.
Yeah, certain people, like me, have to be careful. Too much, too quickly and it's an instant panic attack for me. I didn't give it up since I enjoy the other effects a lot.
I wouldn't treat a mental health issue with THC. However, I have anxiety which is why I take an SSRI so I don't really worry about a panic attack; the meds take care of that.
I'm on Prozac and I've had two panic attacks. The first one I thought was a heart attack and I checked myself into the emergency room.
That sucks! Have you tried any others? I'm on Zoloft, my wife was on Lexapro but that wasn't working well for her so she switched, I can't remember to what.
Yeah, I've been on many over the years. Prozac was a life saver though.
Happened to me a little over ten years ago. I had my wife drive me to the emergency room in the middle of the night because I thought I might be having a heart attack, but it was just a panic attack. Nothing a little lorazepam couldn't fix. It's been mostly downhill from there.
Have you been to the white lotus, quite relaxing there
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