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[–] 80 points 1 year ago (13 children)

You communists are all the same, you say you want to overthrow capitalism but without capitalism who would make your masks to overthrow capitalism?

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  • [–] 81 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.

    ― Vladimir Ilich Lenin


    This comment is not legal advice.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sell the people torches and pitchforks, which they promptly use to stab and char you. As they say, sell them shovels in a gold rush.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I think the earliest documented version of this quote (1955 October 31, The Commonwealth: Official Journal of the Commonwealth Club of California) is more intriguing:

    Lenin wrote, “When it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will vie with each other for the rope contract.”

    —Major George Racey Jordan

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    [–] 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    It's got a point, but capitalists will also gladly sell you every tool you need to overthrow them as long as you have the money for it.

    Nearly 150 million adults in the USA can go buy a semi auto rifle right now, even if their plan is to point it at Colt and Smith and Wesson.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Your point is valid but I think your figure is high.

    There's a handful of states you'd need to have a permit which you can't get right away.

    There's also the cost. Depending on where you look anywhere from 30% to 75% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck or are one large unexpected expense away from catastrophe. They likely don't have the expendable income to go spends hundreds on a firearm at any given moment.

    This is why, even though there's somewhere between 300-500 million civilian owned firearms in the US, those firearms are owned by roughly 32% of the adult population in the country.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I'm speaking specifically about how many Americans have the legal ability to buy these weapons. The cost involved is why I added the "if they have the money" line.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'm speaking especially about the Americans that have the legal ability to buy these weapons.

    I get that but there's about 258.3 adults in the US 18 or older, 196.8 adults 21 or older (some jurisdictions require a buyer to be 21).

    If we apply the most conservative estimate of 30% of adults living paycheck to paycheck that leaves 180.81 million 18 or over adults, or 137.76 21 or over adults.

    Averaging the 2 numbers gives us 159.285 million which is right in the ballpark of your estimate but we'd still have to account for the 32% that already own all the guns (there will be some overlap) and anybody precluded from owning a firearm (criminal record, active TRO/OFP etc.) and anybody who has to get a government issued permit first.

    That's why, while I agree with your point, I think your estimate is high at 150 million.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    There's also the cost.

    Hi-Point: The hole-puncher for the common folk.

    Or auction house AK variants. Or strike old school fear into fascism with a Mosin Nagant or an M1 Garand (ping!).

    Lol memes aside (and not judging!) there's hardware to fill the need at all price points. It's the ammo that's hard to keep up with! Also, safety (and skill) training could be a lot more universally accessible and applied.

    The time to gain familiarity and proficiency is also a severely limiting factor, and of course the working class have less and less of it.

    I think our general attitude and understanding about firearms (in the U.S/"West") has been intentionally poisoned into some bizarre right-wing fetish thing specifically to make sure level-headed, educated, reasonable people who weren't ultra-capitalists wouldn't be the group statistically holding a stupidly unholy amount of them.

    I guess my point is: Capitalism will sell you whatever you like. But that doesn't mean it doesn't have a vetting process for its preferred audience. It simply adjusts the culture to make the very idea revolting to those it would prefer not selling to, and amplifying the signal to stupidly comical degrees to its target audience.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

    Remember when Trump first got elected and Anonymous just suddenly vanished?

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Ha! I'm already doing this. I have an account on a t-shirt vendor site where I upload some low effort anti-capitalism design every week. I dont make much money but I giggle my balls off that people buy it. Like a Che Guevara t-shirt from Hot Topic in the 90s... Some people just dont get irony.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    They're going after the anger dollar, that's a good dollar. We've done research.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    A fitting soundtrack for that message would be 'Surprise surprise' by Billy Talent (lyrics wise).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I first found out about them through their collab with the lead singer of Weezer and they've quickly become one of my new favorite bands

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Nice! You must be talking about 'end of me' then haha. Funny, for me its kind of the other way round, knew/liked BT for some time and then getting more into Weezer. Saw BT live once in 2022 and can recommend 100%. Will see them again for sure (and Weezer already just around the corner next month).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    We're legion, expect us

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