It was not "debunked" btw. Children were murdered during the massacres, including babies.
Of course, Tankies know this, but consider it a good thing, evidently.
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Honestly I hate talking about Oct. 7th, both because it’s horrible to think about but also because it’s at the center of at least two opposing disinformation campaigns by the belligerents. Determining what actually happened and who did what is very challenging.
Regarding the killing of babies, the IDF’s policy to ignore collateral damage and even deliberately kill the Israeli hostages makes it difficult to attribute the deaths to any specific side. It may well be that Hamas killed babies but it may also be they were killed by the IDF. Perhaps both. It’s hard to trust anything that comes out of Israel since they have obstructed investigations by impartial groups like the UN. Certainly many claims by Hamas and Israeli officials have been debunked.
As far as sexual assault, it does seem it happened during the fight ~~but I haven’t seen evidence it was systematic or even necessarily widespread.~~ this last point might be wrong, it’s unclear so I’ll retract it for now.
This is not to say there weren’t war crimes committed by Hamas and allied groups on Oct. 7th, but since these events are currently being used as justification for an ongoing genocide, it’s important to stick to the known facts.
I'm not sure they do know it. Like, they may hear it, but at least from those I've encountered, a lot of the positions advocated only make any sense if one fundamentally disbelieves in nuance. In such a case, one believes that there are good people and bad people, and that anyone that does any bad is irredeemably so and equally bad as anyone else that does any bad thing, and any good person is incapable of doing any wrong.
Thus, the idea that you could have a group of terrorists, who true to that description use terror attacks to further their aims, fighting against a genocidal state doesn't fit, because fighting against a genocide is obviously a good thing to do, and good people would never do something like attack a child, therefore any reports of that happening must be a lie. Some conservatives do the same thing and just pick a different side, insisting that genocide can't be happening because they believe Israel to be the "good guys" fighting a terrorist group.
That isn't to say that the two sides of that conflict are equally wrong either, that position also lacks nuance since it misses that the scale of one crime can be much greater than another, just that some people will see any criticism of anyone fighting on the side of a victimized group as alignment with the aggressor.
Apologies you were caught in the brigade
"Queer Tankies"...?
came here to ask the same thing.
where the queerness of this?
Ah, apologies, I double-checked and no Hexbear users are in the image. I've since edited the title.
Even then, that's a gross generalization. Just because some hexies are queer, nothing about these massacres is queer at all.
I enjoy cognitive dissonant content as much as enjoy ConsSelfOwns. But I see nothing queer dissonant here.
It's more the irony of tankies and queerfolk celebrating and praising Hamas and the massacres. Very much chickens for KFC
but no queerfolk here celebrate حآ ماىى or massacres…
please cease generalizations. The tankies you highlighted are indeed sympathetic to mass murders, not 🏳️🌈F.
There's multiple examples of queer tankies celebrating hamas and the massacres, you can view it on this community
What does this have to do with communism anymore? :(
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