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I've been on it since things got bad in the US. And in most cases, I found a good replacement. Different Pizza delivery, book order, convenient even, most of the time.

For general products I switched to Otto (Germany) mostly, Thalia for books. And I was able to get the biggest recent order through there (two big screens, screen mount, cables), as well as some smaller ones. Alternate would have been another option.

Cost is significantly higher, often +10 % - +20% for the same product and no free shipping.

But what I miss most is convenience. The whole process at Amazon is just working great, especially for stupid people with bad attention (that might be me). Miss a little detail, and you ordered with advanced payment, adding double the clicks and inputs to do a wire transfer. Or not realise you did that and wonder why the product never ships a few days later. Buy from a marketplace seller who ships through DHL, but can't use a DHL pickup location anyway.

What I always disliked about Amazon was the exploitation of employees. How much does that even save per product? I bet that the people handling my order would be happy with EUR 2 extra split among them, as they certainly handle many orders per hour, and I'd be happy to pay that. Is there really no market for high convenience with fair prices?

I do have 10 minutes extra per day to work through a lacking order flow for a good cause, but it would take lots of resources to catch up to that level of convenience.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 50 minutes ago

About OTTO prices and shipping: they do have a program similar to Amazon Prime where you pay 10โ‚ฌ a year and all orders that are shipped by OTTO directly (marketplace items not included, just like with Amazon) are shipped for free. The fun/weird thing is that for orders you collect points which you can use for a discount later and by paying the 10โ‚ฌ for one year of free shipping you get points that equal a 10โ‚ฌ which you can immediately use for your first order, so in a way free shipping is indeed completely free.

[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

I recommend Geizhals, it's a German price comparison website, but there is also a UK, Austrian, and Polish version. Not only does it show you the website where a product is the cheapest, but most of the stores listed there are also European, so it's a win-win situation.

We have some pretty nice online stores for PC hardware here in Germany, for example Mindfactory or Caseking. If you're looking for electronics in general, check out Conrad Electric, Reichelt Elektronik or Pollin Electronic. BerryBase is focused on Raspberry PIs and other DIY electronics stuff. Sertronics, the company behind BerryBase, also operates another online store called Tecgarden, which is more focused on consumer electronics.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Use Geizhals.eu instead of .de. :)

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Thanks, wasn't aware of this

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The filter criteria on geizhals are so far superior to amazon (at least for computer and tv stuff), it's not even funny anymore.

Plus, you can filter for "item is physically present in shop", so you can just look up what you want and then go there and get it yourself, no need for same-day-delivery.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I fully agree.

Probably also a good opportunity to mention that BerryBase also lets you pick up your stuff at their Berlin Adlershof location. Never tried it though, I don't live in Berlin.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

At least Mindfactory stopped shipping outside Germany at some point for some odd reason.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Oh that's pretty unfortunate

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago

Yep, I was just got used to it and then had to find my preferred shop once more. These days https://www.computeruniverse.net/en it is.

[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If it doesn't cost you anything (money or comfortwise) then it wouldn't be a standpoint. It would just have been a good/better decision.

If you have alternatives that work, but are more expensive or inconvenient, it is up to you to decide if it is worth it, compared to the gain of showing your dislike of American products and services.

For me, it is. Also personally I have come to question if I really do need the products that I want to buy from Amazon. Often the answer is no

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

That's how I view it, I don't use amazon because I don't have an account. It makes life harder but that's the point, I want consumption to be hard.

I had a 6 month blip during covid and noticed because it was easy I bought more.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

Often the answer is no

Man if most of people would get to this point, we would have more money and less trash!

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

In Germany you should have access to the Swiss Amazon (we basically don't use Amazon): Galaxus

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

For anyone with LogoiX, you can send it to them and they forward it to your address (pls check LogoiX which countries are included). Alles Post for Austria has that service too, so check your countries' post offices if they offer that service.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago

In Poland we have Allegro, basically noone is using Amazon or ebay - so I think that's a win.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

I can really recommend eBay as an alternative for many small things you get on Amazon, especially electronics.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

That sounds so familiar.

Same challenge for me. I ditched Microsoft, Facebook, X, Amazon, Facebook, Reddit, Google.

I am teasing Amazon with the fact that I have entered a big wish list :-)

My list of shops includes Otto, Reichelt, Alternate, notebooksbilliger, Pollin and, where possible, I buy directly from the manufacturer.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've found eBay to be the best drop-in replacement so far, but that depends on if you want to boycott US companies in general or just Amazon.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I ordered something from ebay recently and it came from amazon. I think the seller just ordered from amazon for me ๐Ÿ˜’

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Lmao that's actually kinda hilarious

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago

I've just started to visit Kaufland more. They've usually got what I'm looking for xD

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Just about every serious seller on Amazon has a website or another direct sales channel. The bigger ones will even ship with a professional warehouse in about the same time. Some even give discounts or return incentives if you shop them regularly and can almost surely handle customer service or tech issues faster and more directly without going through Amazon. If they are honest in their dealings their return and exchange policies may even be better too.

Amazon really understands the lifetime value of a customer and benefits tremendously by having the biggest catalog in existence. They do a lot of stuff to keep buyers satisfied and sellers on edge. It's a race to the bottom there and nobody wins except Amazon, while customers get cheaper and cheaper shit and sellers can have their livelihood and the funds to pay the salaries of their staff by a Monday morning email which could come after the slightest infraction.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

This gives me an idea for a browser plug in that would show you the sellers direct store as you shop Amazon. Maybe something like that exists already.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

I have completely stopped buying from Amazon buuuuuut I still use them.

Use them to find the products you want. They have a good search engine and lots of reviews of products. Use https://www.fakespot.com/ to make sure the reviews are good! Once you find the thing you want, look up the company and buy from them. Most places have free shipping for things over a certain amount. I'm in the USA so I'm no sure if this would be the same for you. But, you can use a search engine to find it at a more local store.

Kindle is still my favorite eReader but I don't buy them from Amazon. Calibre is a good program that can change file types of ebooks. If you buy an ebook from anywhere else, you can convert the file to epub. Then you can email the file to your kindle library. It will add it and keep all functionality as if you bought it on kindle.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I have never shopped on Amazon so saying you can't cut them out completely is a lie.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I've never taken heroin so saying you can't stop completely is a lie.