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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (7 children)

So much is not being done with VR technology, mostly because Meta aren't a technology company. They're an acquisitions and holding company posing as a tech company.

Give devs the ability to convert QR codes into VR objects.

In this case this VR experiencer would look at two QR codes on a sign at the start of the walk, and the VR map could then be correctly overlayed onto the real forest.

Or another use case: putting QR codes on exercise weights so the game can track them, rather than struggling to track your hands or controllers.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The stupid looking thing hanging off your face is still going to be a huge turn off.

Until they fix the form factor, VR isn't going to be a real thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Agreed, and that's one of the main reasons why the Apple headset failed (other than the price, and the fact that it's a VR headset that can't play VR games, of course).

Three things need to happen before outdoor VR/headset AR becomes mainstream:

  1. It needs to look like a normal pair of glasses,
  2. It needs a to have mainstream software support,
  3. It needs to be affordable (less than $500, ideally under $300).
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

1 can never happen, at least if you're defining "normal" as currently fashionable sunglasses. AR maybe, but VR needs full color displays at a certain distance so the eye can focus and it needs to block out other light sources. And then the power source and computer needs to connect somehow. Maybe, as in sci-fi maybe, we can develop a superdense high-definition display that beams directly into the retina while compensating for the lens, variable focus, and general motion of the eye so it can sit an inch away and look crisp, but I can't imagine that being realistic this side of fifty years (and it doesn't solve the energy or processing problems). VR is either not going to be mainstream in our lifetime or everyone is going to accept wearing a shoebox on their face for the experience.

2 and 3 are reasonable requests, there should be headsets that are as attainable and compatible as a standard monitor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think fashion will change to fit the technology, honestly. It's happened before with smartwatches (somewhere down the line we decided a square black "mirror" on the wrist actually looks pretty darned cool if you design it right).

Look at cyberpunk for examples. In general their design team did really, really well, and while many wouldn't adopt the chunkier bits, I'd certainly opt for that style.

For a real life example, we have the Hyperion Thinview (an fpv headset) that shows practicality for that form factor. Not the best, but throw in Meta levels of screen density and high-tech optics and yeah I think it's possible in that thin compact design.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

1 can never happen, at least if you're defining "normal" as currently fashionable sunglasses.

https://www.evenrealities.com/en/g1

Add an electrochromic layer for VR.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Electrochromic displays don't emit light or have anywhere near the color capacity necessary here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Electrochromic layer is to block/reduce the outside world for a better VR experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where, then, is the display?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

On the layer(s) before the Electrochomic layer (relative to the eye).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well that's at least an inch of electronics and lens and doesn't address the focal distance problem. You're putting the cart well before the horse here, automatically swapping from AR to immersive VR is the last thing to solve.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Well that's at least an inch of electronics and lens

Surprisingly not. Look at the previous link.

and doesn't address the focal distance problem.

This is lens related. For thin lenses you sacrifice quality.

You're putting the cart well before the horse here, automatically swapping from AR to immersive VR is the last thing to solve.

I was addresses a specific question about VR using AR glasses.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can already get cheap enclosures that you can put your phone into to make it work as a VR headset.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

And they kinda suck.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Meta's pivot to AR is accidental.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Their only AR feature for quest is passthrough. They've got their raybans but I doubt many are buying them. I couldn't even tell you what they're for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You are mostly correct. The quest can detect walls and furniture, so there are some fun looking irl platformer game demos, but nothing big yet. Developers have only just been granted access to the camera feeds.

The raybans have sold 2m units. I think the target market is instagramers not XR enthusiasts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Meta rolled back furniture detection .. and "passthrough" means the camera feeds... You can't access individual cameras just the whole processed image at the end. It's not like I can request just one video feed or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Yes. The consumer quest is mainly an overlay AR device at the moment with little environmental information being added.

But combine the quest technology and software with rayban form factor and then Meta have a very strong AR device. All the building block are there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Booted my Quest 2 recently. They are trying to push that metaverse bs hard on the front page. And every metaverse game thumbnail is of course AI slop. And proper VR games are pushed all the way down. Meta is destroying VR gaming and VR in general. No smart game dev will put serious time and money into VR in the future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Friggin hate how locked down the Quest is, you basically can't do anything with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

But, but metaverse. nfts :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

That is something i really loved about the cards you got with the Nintendo 3DS. You could point the camera at the card and the character on that card would come out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That part about overlaying the map would be more AR, and idk if Facebook is doing work in that realm. I know Microsoft has been for years. I remember that cool little Minecraft demo from E3

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I mean AR was a major selling point of the Quest 3

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago

Boomer humor

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Actually augmented reality glasses will be really cool when I don't have to wear a brick over my eyes to use it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Meta are releasing something this year. I think it's only 1 eye first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I'd only consider buying it if it looked like a Planetary Trade Organization scouter.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago

If she has to announce it, then she's not

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hahahahaha this is great hahahaha

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Man, Leprechaun 9 looks so good.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sick. Many times have I been in a place that would have been q thousand times better if there was no one around.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

People. What a bunch of bastards.