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[–] [email protected] 81 points 11 hours ago

Yes, name and shame the suckers already in the headline so they get what they deserve! VPN SECURE , yeah, right.

[–] [email protected] 325 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 99 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Odd how they didn't just put that in the title.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

What's odd is that it's not in the Wired headline either, this is a direct copy of their headline.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Guessing it was a force copy title for the sub and the article wanted you to click. They put it in the body of the post at least.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Oh boy. Someone dig up the Tumblr post I gotta go to bed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

no no no nonononono come back and post it

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

I have bought a lifetime VPN for 15$ in 2018 or 19, still kicking :)

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

This is absolutely disgusting behavior. "Cannot honor the purchases," my ass.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like "the new middle ages" really was a correct description of our time. Well, we're at the dawn of it. All our universal rights and universal truths are going to be subject to who's holding the dagger at your throat, and we'll have theocracies, family republics and feudal lords again. The blooming diversity of hell.

OK, this is a bit offtopic, just one can see such behavior in all areas today where they wouldn't be normal 30 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

I propose "the new dark ages" might be more appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

To be fair to the new owners the previous ones never mentioned the lifetime subscriptions existed and they were sinking the company. Probably the reason the original owners sold in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

It was obviously a cash grab from the company before fucking off, you can't reasonably expect a lifetime vpn for 30 bucks. Either it eventually gets repriced, or they start mining all your information like every other "free" vpns.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

Yet that was exactly what they sold, this is not too blame in the customer. They built a subscriber base on those purchases which is capital to them.

They need to uphold the contract that they entered in to.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 12 hours ago

Yeah this looks to me like everyone got scammed, including the new owners.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago

Due diligence what...?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They also said that they were cancelling lifetime contracts that hadn't been used in 6 months. Hard to see how those could be sinking the company.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago

Correct.

This is just bullshit being said so the owners can make more money.

Every single person you see who believes it and perpetuates it is a useful idiot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's not being fair to the new owners.

It's the company buyer's responsibility to make sure they know about and honor existing contracts with the existing company, and it's the company's responsibility to provide that information to the buyer.

It is not ANYONE else's responsibility to make them follow that. If something like this happens, the company(whether before or after the purchase) was in the wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If the previous owner specifically make sure they do not know about that because they made a quick cash grab, how exactly do you imagine they should know about this?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Not the customer's problem. Also, fraud.

But probably failure of due diligence because any seller who's not a complete idiot would rather let the sale fail and let the company go bankrupt than risk committing fraud.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

I assume most companies write somewhere in their terms that "lifetime" means effectively "whenever the fuck we want".

If there is a company that uses the word lifetime properly they may be worth a mention.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

That shouldn’t matter

If we had the most basic of regulatory practices over businesses in this country, especially the tech industry, this practice simply wouldn’t be allowed. Even the bullshit doublespeak “life of the product” version

Lifetime means lifetime. If you can’t honor that don’t offer it. If you go back on it you should be harshly penalized.

Looking at you t mobile, rolling stone magazine, filmora, Dropbox, salesforce, mcafee, etc

This should also include if you remove features from lifetime subscriptions and make them contingent on paid monthly subscriptions (looking at you adobe, Evernote, and probably plex in 3-5 years)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Lifetime means lifetime

No, actually that is part of the problem, they shouldn't even be allowed to advertise 'Lifetime' without explicitly stating whose lifetime.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've read that laws of most countries have become orders of magnitude more complex since the time when ESG wrote his Perry Mason books.

One could also think that all of the laws functioning in a country at one moment being possible to grasp for one person in a week are a requirement for Heinlein and Asimov's visions of good future too.

Often touching upon the fundamental aspects like this one - a company sells not what it advertises, but it has somewhere in agreement a line that says otherwise.

While we have enormous amount and volume of active laws that don't change any fundamental aspects, but function as a minefield for an honest person trying to navigate reality.

A combinatorial explosion if you will.

When the legal apparatus as a whole stops functioning as law and becomes yet another power in the society. In some sense having law is a disturbance, and laws becoming so complex that they are not laws again, but something like medieval privileges, with complex interpretations depending on each side's power, and sometimes inevitable contradictions, just means that the system of society has responded to that disturbance.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

In the fine print, "lifetime" is defined as the lifetime of a particular mayfly that has not been all that well-treated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They often tie it to current offerings. So your plan may have unlimited 4G data for life, but won't include anything faster/newer. So once you want/need 5G, you have to switch to a different plan.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

I've seen some saying that "lifetime" refers to product lifetime, which is not expected to be more than X years. So yeah, slimes gonna slime

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I guess Nebula should be meantioned then?

https://go.nebula.tv/lifetime?ref=nebulablog

It's the only company that comes to mind that still offers something like that.

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