I can't speak for all of us, but I don't think "the world" at large ever supported "Trumpism" and we largely have always thought him to be a gigantic tit and those who voted him into office TWICE to be idiotic or miseducated.
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Fascism. It's called Fascism, not, "Trumpism."
So fucking stupid.
At this point, if a news outlet or politician refuse to call it what it is, I assume they actually approve.
So far it's most of them across the world.
I think a lot of them are afraid of being censored by the fascism for being alarmist. And then trying to hold onto a position of relative power via information is a tricky one, because you have to balance not only your tv station, but the backers, your audience, your managers, your coworkers, your position, your career, and also your life. These people are really REALLY risk adverse, for many different reasons. I'm not justifying it, but I'm imagining this is at least the intuition that some may be working through. Explanation is not justification.
So much for the 4th estate
I think US commentators make far too much of Trump and US political influence on the world. It exists but we all have our own cultures, political systems etc out here and we proudly do our own thing. The arrogance of people on all sides of US politics who think an election result on the other side of a world is a reflection of their own domestic politics is incredible.
It would be convenient if the rest of the world could fix a broken US democracy but it is a fantasy. US citizens need to address their problems through struggle and resistance. Their current problems runs very deep in their society and isn't simply an international fashion trend.
I mean the world can fix a broken US democracy by boycotting the US entirely on all fronts until a democratic country emerges.
This will take a while though as we have seen with South Africa.
Doubt it would play out that way in the US. They're much more likely to take military action when the world cuts them out since making weapons is what made them rich and you can't keep making weapons without using or selling them.
I’m astounded that Theresa May wasn’t the calling that unrestricted liberal economics (aka trickle down) is a fairytale.
And that economic stability is held by the safety net the lower class makes use of and the middle class falls back to. (Social economics)
And yet I keep seeing Trump's name and picture next to German words I can't read here... curious.
I honestly don’t see a way out of this other than a war against the fascists. Something like the American civil war where the racists got their asses thoroughly beaten, or WWII, where the Nazis got absolutely crushed. I feel like it’s just one of those things that pops up once in a while. Basically, fascists are the herpes of society.
This American situation is partly the long tail of the failure of reconstruction; Confederates got their asses handed to them but they were never properly removed from power. Now the racists are once again in charge, their monuments still stand, their flag is still flown, and the southern strategy is central to their political power.
Compare this to Germany, who stripped Nazis from power, outlawed their symbols, and have guard rails to prevent fascist movements from rising again. (They are now being used against AfD.)
Compare this to Germany, who stripped Nazis from power, outlawed their symbols, and have guard rails to prevent fascist movements from rising again. (They are now being used against AfD.)
Don't know where you're getting that from.
Most Nazis were never actually stripped from positions of power after the war (teachers, public services, our secret services, political parties, I could go on). Outlawing their symbols did fuck all obviously and isn't even enforced as long as you don't go around outright spraying swastikas on walls in broad daylight (or are an antifascist displaying one thrown into a bin, crossed out or otherwise clearly used with an opposing intention). The people in power are unwilling to use the guardrails and systems that we have to prevent Nazis from rising to power again. Meanwhile we have an extremism problem in our police force who won't protect anybody from the mob when the time comes, and a "conservative" party that's just always lagging 5 years behind the AfD in their policies, racing ever further to the right in their wind shadow.
We're fucked.
Exactly this. The Confederates should never have been allowed to rejoin society.
Celebrating prematurely. The UK is about to go fascist, Germany is teetering on the brink, and Canada only just dodged a bullet for now.
And no mention of Italy?
Yes, Italy, Hungary and others are already well down the fascist path. Romania just went fascist. Austria is struggling not to be wholly under the far right's control, depending on a coalition to hold them off. The far right has significant power in the governments of Slovakia, Netherlands, Finland, and Sweden. Portugal and Belgium are also dealing with surging far right movements.
It's absurd to conclude it's over because centrism squeaked through in Canada and Australia. It's like everyone relaxing in 2020 because the US public were sure to see sense under Biden.
I heard that Poland is also cheering for some MAGA guy in the next election... Troubling times ahead.
For Romania, there might still be a chance in the run-off. However, the difference between the two candidates was quite large (20% difference; 1.8 million votes). Similarly, the other candidates seemed to have voters that would rather vote for the nazi. Most likely all hope is lost, but that 1% chance is still there.
And Portugal overthrew fascism in the 1970s, too...
Italy has always been a joke, Hungary too
Greece was coming frighteningly close to nazism a few years back
It's so frustrating to see
... Canada only just dodged a bullet for now
By 3 points; less than a basketball goal
And don't forget that Italy, Poland and Hungary are already there and we're about to invade the few countries that went left.
Poland actually got rid of their right wing government in the last election in 2023 and are hopefully dumping the president who's been blocking reform. It can be done.
Poland is not out of the woods yet though
We don’t have a general election for another 4 years in the UK.
Reform won some council seats and are already having issues.
The fact that they’re getting this far bothers me though.
What? No. All our (Canadian) fascists are gonna separate and join the US. Then we’ll be a fascist-free country!
One can hope, but each time I get optimistic, some crazy bullshit goes down.
I sure hope this is right…
Better late than never I suppose. Congrats everyone else.
I'll take it. Really. It sucks for us. But if this is what it takes to get everyone else to kick this bullshit ass ideology and actually get on with progress over stagnation let's fucking go.
Agree. Let's take the hit and move towards getting off this fucking planet.
Take the hit and learn the lessons. And fix this planet.
It's not Trumpism, it's fascism.
Salon, huffpo, msnbc ffs. These are the hopium sites favored by the beaten left, because actual corporate journalism collapsed under it’s own ignorance and greed a long time ago.
The NYT will trot out a hopium piece every once in awhile like rainbow-flagging-the-logo for Pride month, but it’s all clickbait.
Who are you going to vote for in the midterms? The left needs to get its shit together. Propaganda, corruption, and blatant lies are kicking our ass.
You have to wonder what infects the minds of people such that they fall for this in other countries.
I have a good idea what does it here.
Its not complicated. The prosperity of Europeans and their descendants was paid for through the bloodshed of colonial exploitation. This created an inherently inequal world order.
The world has become more equal post WW2 and the descendants of the greatest beneficiaries of that exploitation are now displeased that they don't hold the same advantages their ancestors did. That's why we have to go back. That's why we have to make _____ great again.
Most PoC can hear these dogwhistles (if you can even call them that) from a mile away.
But the rise of the far right among the Western allies seems to be stalling out.
Sorry, wut??
Can't imagine what in the screaming goat fuck would lead you to this conclusion other than pure blind idiocy...
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