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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 hours ago (12 children)

Wait,you guys don't get that? Shit I'm.here in Northern Ireland and that would be less than standard. That's what we give teenagers,hell,most teens would not take that deal. When did America start treating the worker so bad? Like 1865?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

America was built on treating the worker badly. Most of the first people that came here were either slaves or indentured servants. Chinese people got exploited to build the railroads, and then banned from being citizens in the country. Now we have prison slavery and wage servitude. There are a million and one examples, but exploiting the worker is as American as apple pie.

The only thing that has ever really improved in American labor is actual safety standards for work environments, equipment, etc. We do a great job of prioritizing that. But actual workers are viewed as expendable, and many of the largest employers are just meat grinders even if they offer half-decent benefits. Walmart is a good example of that

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

You have 32h/week as a standard?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah its slowly becoming the standard

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

That's awesome! I was actually looking into moving to Ireland (not the TERF-island part tho). Sadly their trans healthcare is also sub par.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

But companies don’t want happier employees. With that title this article will never break out of the echo chamber and reach employers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I worked for an employee owned manufacturing company for near ten years. The philosophy of our company was, "the essence of life is relationships".

The founder of the company was the only religious person I knew who actually followed it's teachings, he sold his stock to the company for less than it was worth until we were 100% employee owned. The stock price then shot up from $200 a share to $6k a share in ten years.

The company understood the importance of working ideas from the bottom up, (involving the lowest ranking employees just as much as the highest ranking). We understood the importance of company culture, and even had teams of people to make sure the needs of our employees were being met.

We had a supervisor who by all accounts was a fine supervisor on paper, however he rubbed every single employee the wrong way, he was a cunt if i may. With the support of all of us, we were able to, I don't want to say get rid of him, it sounds cold, but his name came up on our (truly anonymous) survey one year the company asked him to resign, and he did.

The owner passed away in 2018, and shit got squirrely from there, i left during the pandemic. CEO and highest ranking positions then changed hands to folks not there at the founding of the company, I felt the culture shifting and left due to personal reasons. The stock has since tanked.

I dont understand why these companies don't see the importance of uplifting their workforce.

I'll never find and employer like that again i think. It was a magical decade. Of course my stock is tanked now, im to be cashed out this year.

The ladder has been pulled right before my time my whole life so this osnt new. I went from having enough for a down payment on a house, and now i wont even beable to afford a car lmao.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I've seen this happen to multiple people. Join a startup with good perks, listen to the siren song of "the stock price will go up!" while the owners are out getting offers for their shares, then the owners sell out or the company tanks and you're left with nothing despite having millions just a couple years ago on paper.

The key is to sell out once you have enough that it makes enough to impact your life. 500k or more is enough to escape poverty for almost anybody for life.

Even if you just sold it as it vested you would probably be better off.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Only 4 weeks? In much of Europe, 5-6 weeks is the norm.

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