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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hello world,

as many of you probably already know, Lemmy is an open source project and its development is funded by donations.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, donations amounts are often going down over time if people are not aware of their necessity. When older users leave the platform they may stop donating, while new users joining will typically not be aware of this and won't start donating to even things out or even go towards an overall increase in donations.

All of the services provided by our non-profit Fedihosting Foundation are dependent on the development of FOSS platforms, which we can host without paying any licensing or other fees, instead only being required to pay for the infrastructure cost. We are currently investing a small part (โ‚ฌ50 each) of the donations we receive in development of Lemmy and Mastodon, but the majority of the donations we receive are used for covering infrastructure costs. We're currently just about breaking even with the donations we receive, but it's certainly not enough to cover a large part of Lemmy or other software development costs.

We're looking to support sustainable software development for all the services we provide and will post similar announcements on our other platforms to promote donations towards the respective development teams in the coming days.

You can find the original announcement by @[email protected] below:

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005

An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000โ‚ฌ per month. This leaves only 1000โ‚ฌ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

Liberapay | Ko-fi | Patreon | OpenCollective | Crypto

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000โ‚ฌ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500โ‚ฌ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

Donate


edit, as this was frequently brought up:

Will donations to Lemmy development go towards the operation of lemmy.ml?

It depends on the donation method used and is limited to around 2% of the minimum overall donation goal. The vast majority of donations is exclusively used for developer salaries.

lemmy.ml hosting is only financed by donations via Opencollective. All other donations go exclusively to developer salaries.

[source]

For donations via Open Collective, yes, a tiny fraction of donations towards Lemmy development will go towards the operation of lemmy.ml. The reasons for this include that lemmy.ml is used for testing new releases and also that it's not worth maintaining a separate donation account for the instance. Additionally, it should be noted that the money going towards lemmy.ml hosting is just a tiny fraction of the funds that are being asked for. Hosting lemmy.ml costs around โ‚ฌ100/month, which is only 2% of the stated minimum donation goal.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

The comments are a full microcosm showcasing why Lemmy will stay underground and it will never overtake reddit

[โ€“] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (12 children)

ITT: a mighty showcase of the divide-and-conquer strategy by psyops.

Instead of realizing that our goal as an alternative community to Reddit is first and foremost to... well duh, to build a community and keep it thriving, people here are infighting, preferring to subdivide themselves into tankies and non-tankies.

If Lemmy eventually fails and no other project with a similar feature-set can show up in time, we end up killing the existing momentum.

If that happens, all of you shall remember this very moment, and bravo to the psyops people (be it from the government or corporate) because you won yet again.

Donated. Though because I am living in a third world country it's just a measly ~25 dollars.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

As someone from a relatively poor country too, 25 bucks are a lot. For this entire busy day, I've earned $15.

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Not getting mixed up with tankies or fascist is a pretty important thing. I would rather not have such "social" media instead.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

thats basically my opinion. I'm not a fan of tankies or .ml, but love lemmy, happy to have a reoccuring donation to help

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[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Not while the devs run a pro-genocide echo chamber. Tankie punks fuck off.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck the lemmy.ml devs. I'm not going to donate to a group of people who have clearly targeted me over and over again across multiple accounts with petty bans for gently questioning their authoritarian orthodoxy.

Donate to forks like piefed or mbin. Let .ml reap what it sows.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (30 children)

I just logged into Liberapay, and then I saw their profile pictures. Remembered I can't donate to tankies (inb4: I didn't say communists) any more I could maga supporters. or IDF apologists

lemmy.ml:

Hey but they're not that bad! Nutomic responded in this thread:

I certainly dont praise or support civilians being displaced from their homes.

Isn't it wonderfully vague? ~~You know who expressed the same sadness about displaced people? guess~~ (I can't find a source/misremembered? my bad)

You can remove all ambiguity by saying who is the unequivocal aggressor responsible for the gruesome death of thousands of young men and civilians in Ukraine.

How's the denazification going, guys?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (22 children)

All this is very confusing to me. I had to look up what tankies are and if these giuys are tankies then they can go fuck themselves. I came here from reddit and now I am thinking I might have made a mistake. I don't know enough aboput this federated stuff to understand it. I have no idea how to block .ml nor do I know who these people are who run it. I do know that I had a very close Ukrainian friend as a child and although he is dead now I still see the Ukrainian people are brothers and sisters. I am not sure I want to give any of my money to an intance that actively shits out fucking ork propaganda. I need some educating here.

[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're on .world, .world already defederates (Will not accept content, votes or users) from 2/3rds of what's known as the "Tankie Triad" (.ml, Hexbear and Grad, .world is defeded from grad and hex)

For blocking go-to lemmy.world/settings block tab and scroll to bottom to "instance blocks" and add lemmy.ml

Note: The "block" currently does not function properly, it's more of a mute, you won't see .ml comments or posts, but they can see and interact with it

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wouldn't say you made a mistake. Lemmy is still a great place and instances like lemmy.world you're on, are run by down to earth people like you and me.

It's just that Lemmy's core code is (primarily) developed by people who ... well, have some opinions. However, that probably shouldn't even matter. Developers' opinions are just that - opinions. They don't put any of their opinions into the code. And that code is then taken by people of lemmy.world to run the instance.

And up until now it wasn't a big issue, it was more like a curiosity "Hah, this great piece of software is developed by those guys. Well I strongly disagree with them and want to have nothing with their instance and their opinions". But now it starts to be an issue when they ask for money. People are naturally reluctant

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

You seem to be forgetting that the two devs are active admins on both ML and grad. And at least one of them does spend a lot of time banning any critique of their pro-genocide views.

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