Its rediculous to me this is even listed as opinion. We have completely lost rights in the last few months.
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The 2A people will be here any second to rectify this government tyranny.
Aaaaannnny second now.
Nope. Most people are still trying to pass the blame for it. That this isn't a failure of us as a general population. This is all somehow on the Democrats for not catering to them perfectly. Or coming out to hold their hand. That we have no Duty ourselves and no responsibility. That we as a population didn't let the national parties get to where they are through complacency. That this isn't still ongoing because of complacency
I literally had someone tell me last night that those of us solely focused on keeping a fascist out of office. Were only interested in a short-term future. Nothing long-term. Not actually fixing anything. Like in 4 years we're just all going to get a mulligan, and all the egregious shit that has happened and will happen in the next four years is just going to be magically unto itself. No fam, those rights whether or not we ever really had them are completely gone now.
A lot of immigrants and Muslims voted for Trump instead of Harris because of all the one-sided stink raised around Biden Harris. As if there was ever a more appropriate time to both sides of things. And all these people so fond of both sidesing things couldn't do it. Even more were demotivated not to vote. And even with all that the Democrats only lost by single digit percentage. But at least so many of these people have their ideological purity to comfort them. As families are torn apart, people killed kidnapped and tortured. Until they can acknowledge that they had a hand in this. We will just keep moving down this path slowly if we're lucky.
You're getting downvoted but you're right.
The two parties have WILDLY different standards. Democrats have to be flawless while Republicans get to be lawless.
People would much rather blame Democrats than accept that the American electorate is at fault for failing an open book test. Sure, political parties have to work to prove their worth (well, some of them), but American voters also need to be responsible and inform themselves.
"They didn't earn my vote."
Did the felon rapist earn your vote? Did the Democrats not earn your vote by having a voting history proving they regularly vote in favor of the middle/lower classes? Do they need to get on their knees and suck your dick to earn your vote? Is impending fascism not enough to move the needle for you?
Our political parties may be trash, but so is our electorate. Our political parties are literally a reflection of our electorate.
Yes people would do well to understand that we have the representatives we deserve. Not the ones we want. And there's a reason for that.
I keep seeing all this unearned bravado and confidence. People shouting how if Democrats want to stop losing they need to start supporting them. And I'm like oh what office did you win?
Completely agree. There are plenty of points where you can effect change but when that final election comes you vote for the better option for that race. And if you did not do that, yeah Im pissed at you but the important thing is you learn your lesson and do the sensible thing in the future.
Yes unfortunately you can see all the ones desperately down voting. Trying to deny it. Even though their ideological purity won't feed The Starving Children in gaza. Won't reunite all the destroyed families. Won't bring back all the innocent young men not sold into slavery. But that we are now through our government paying to be held as slaves to someone else. Honestly I think a lot of them meant well. We all do. But we all make mistakes as well. However not all of us can acknowledge that.
Lemmy is full of fools who voted 3rd party or didn't vote and are very, very upset when you point out how foolish they were.
They'll make the same mistake next time around. There's no learning involved for them.
And the thing really is we don't care that they made a mistake. We all make mistakes. All any of us is asking for is just for them to say well we done f***** up let's not do that again in the future.
I've watched this repeat for 50 years straight. Over 30 years as a voter. One step forward two steps back. But I suspect that describes the last hundred years at least
You realize you’re passing the blame to voters who weren’t thrilled with democrats’ slogan “everything’s fine, what are you whining about?”
Yes.
Because they allowed a felon rapist traitor to become our leader, and that scum is now crashing our economy and creating a fascist regime. Which is exactly what we said would happen if they didn't vote or voted 3rd party.
Do you think I was THRILLED with Democrats this time around?
No.
But I'm not stupid enough to let that get in the way of trying to prevent what's happening now.
These people need to grow the fuck up and make the BEST decision in the reality they live in. They didn't. And now we're suffering the consequences. And it's just the beginning.
100%. You realize things would be significantly better than they are had Democrats won right? I don't blame people for not being excited. But the only options were open fascism or democrats. I can 100% blame people for not being motivated enough to vote against open fascism. I can 100% blame people for working super hard to demotivate people from voting for Democrats in the presidential election. So much so that they actually convinced many people to vote against their interests, and vote for the fascist.
Now instead of working to improve things from the imperfect situation we were in before. We've solidly lost several rights and are now in a much bigger hole than ever. All it would have taken is just a percentage or two more worth of votes. Instead we keep repeating 1980. Protest voting ourselves out of relevance because someone who doesn't pass our purity test or excite us enough.
Maybe democrats should have used their past mandates to codify Roe or enact universal healthcare.
We want progressives who will fight, not Vichy left Diet Republicans™️.
And instead you got a felon rapist traitor who is creating a fascist regime. We're losing rights. Regulations are being rolled back. The economy is crashing. Life is more expensive.
Because you wanted everything exactly the way you wanted it right now or fuck it all.
Real smart.
They've never been handed a mandate. The fact that you think they have is part of the problem. A Mandate doesn't just mean getting a president in and a vanishingly thin majority. A mandate means the presidency and solidly controlling at least one other branch of government. Something that hasn't happened for Democrats in my lifetime now basically 50 years.
I don't know how old you are or how far back your awareness extends. But the Supreme Court has been trending solidly fascist for 30 plus years. Even with solid victories like obama's. The Supreme Court was still fascistic, and they struggled to get enough votes to even pass something as lackluster and flawed as the ACA. Because there were not enough votes in the Congress. Not a mandate. A mandate is having the people in Congress to pass the laws and someone in the presidency to sign them. Anything less doesn't work.
And Roe v Wade is not a Democratic failure it is a systemic failure. Remember it was the solidly Republican Supreme Court that decided Roe versus Wade in the 1970s. Yes it absolutely should have been codified into law and the constitution. But you know who didn't campaign against and overturn Roe versus Wade? Democrats.
I'm glad people like yourself are angry. It's the correct response. It's healthy. What I don't like is that you keep aiming the gun at our Collective foot. Please stop shooting our foot.
You're talking to people who want things exactly the way they want them, right now, or they're willing to burn it all down.
And they did.
Who’s shooting their own foot? Not me, I voted for Harris. Any other straw men you’d like to easily “defeat”?
Democrats aren’t your friends. They take your vote and legislate against you. All those think pieces asking why republicans vote against their own interests? Look in the mirror, buddy.
I’m sorry you had to find out this way.
They take your vote and legislate against you.
Democrats gave me affordable healthcare when I was young and couldn't afford it otherwise. My vote for them directly resulted in me getting affordable healthcare.
If you've ever bothered to look up the Democrat party's voting history, which you clearly haven't, they regularly vote in favor of the middle/lower classes.
False equivalance; Everyone knows 99% of politicians on both sides don't really give a shit. When one side is literally fascism and the other believes in our Constitution and Democracy, there is no consideration. As an American, your vote in that situation should be automatic. Don't get me wrong, Democrats are often shitty, but the fact that so many voters ignored the issue of Trump's blatant disregard for the Constitution as some kind of distraction issue and not by far the most important one is mind boggling.
Who’s shooting their own foot? Not me, I voted for Harris. Any other straw men you’d like to easily “defeat”?
If that's the case, and you didn't take part in the one-sided orgy of sensationalized coverage. That actually convinced many vulnerable peoples to vote for the person that wanted to attack them. Then what are you arguing with me for. Don't blame others being confused by your baffling Behavior.
Democrats aren’t your friends
Where did anyone imply they were? Now look who's making straw men. I know I've posted the same phrase multiple times today and I'm pretty sure to this reply thread even. I think it may have been the very first post to this replying thread that I am not a Democrat or a republican. I am an anarchist and I want all those parties dissolved eventually. What part of that implies friendly.
All those think pieces asking why republicans vote against their own interests? Look in the mirror, buddy.
Do explain. This seems especially detached from reality and I'm interested where this is going. Republicans generally like my message. The problem is I just don't offer them the fear that motivates them. Democrats generally like my message too. I simply don't offer the hordes of cash that get the attention of leadership.