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Just a friendly reminder (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You think the 90M people that couldn’t be bothered to vote against fascism are going to take to the streets and fight?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Electoral voting is useless and built to disenfranchise and demotivate people participating from politics. Doing direct action immediately improves your life and builds mutual aid networks. So yes.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

It’s useless, yet it’s exactly why we have a fascist dictator? That’s tautological.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You would get a fascist dictator regardless. That has always been the inevitable path of liberal electoral politics under capitalism.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Ah, defeatism. It’s going to happen anyway, so why bother doing anything about it. Great outlook.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don't put words in my mouth. I suggest the opposite of "doing nothing". Voting is doing nothing every 4 years and expecting things to improve in the face of 100 years of evidence to the contrary.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I insist that you’re incorrect, based on the simple fact that 77M people voted for a fascist dictator and now we have a fascist dictator. Clearly voting does something, or we wouldn’t have a fascist dictator for president.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

They aren't saying do nothing, they're saying do something more useful than voting.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

They stated a fact, that not defeatism. WTF is with people getting mad at the messenger all the time

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

The message that voting would’ve done nothing to stop Trump from being elected is nonsensical.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Not what they said at all

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

No single thing alone will fix the world. Voting alone won't fix it. Throwing a molotov alone won't fix it.

Voting (in many places, for many people) takes almost no effort. Go do it. But don't call it a day and think you've done everything you can do. Refusing to vote just yields one of the many fronts in this conflict without a fight.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

We could've.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Apathy is what got us here

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Everyone agitating for an overthrow of the system through memes is going to get out there and start doing it any day now just you wait...

Aaaaaaaany day now...

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

True. What works best is being a smug "nothing ever happens" lib online and doing one political action every 4 years.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Oh, I see the psyop is hard at work already. "No, don't vote, it's useless, don't even bother, leave it to those suckers who are doing this stupid ineffective voting thing. Oh, they have all the power all of the sudden? Who knew, no idea how that happened"

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don't badjacket. Just because we don't believe in the electoral farce doesn't make us a paid actor.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

That's true, some people repeat the same points for free. This is also bad, it leads to bad outcomes.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

100+ years of electoralism and you ended up in fascism anyway. Talk about bad outcomes.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Fascism, the ultimate form of antielectoralism, is winning, yes. And instead of fighting it, the most passionate groups of left-leaning people are obsessed with not doing the bare minimum to stop it.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Pretty much. The left can’t be bothered by pragmatism and is blinded by perfectionism. It boggles my mind how the political side who should be the go to for most of the population can’t make politics.

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