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[–] [M] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey all, I am locking this post. Here is the bottom line. Blahaj is a trans safe instance. Regardless of your personal opinion on whether a term is gender neutral or not, the moment someone tells you that they are not OK with that term, that should be the end of the debate. This is a good rule not only in Blahaj but in real life. Continuing to argue with someone about what they should or should not accept in this matter is harmful.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I still think guy/dude is gender neutral. Call it the Good Burger principle:

    “I’m a dude, he’s a dude, she’s a dude, we’re all dudes… HEY!”

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My closest gender neutral family member likes dude, if you're in doubt just ask, they'll appreciate it

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    [–] 59 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    Soooo much appreciation for this 🩷 I think I'll forever mentally twitch when people use dude, man, mate, bro, etc. towards me. I totally know it's done in a gender neutral way, but I still feel a small pang in my heart.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    How's Homie sit with you? (I think Homie is a great gender neutral term!)

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

    Using a validating, non vaguely-male term is great, though!

    Most of the terms are like: "these are MALE terms and also girls can be 'one of the bros' in certain circumstances"... but that's just not what transition is about.

    We don't want to be "just one of the bros"; you gotta understand that:

    a) that's NOT what a lot of us after,

    b) the world doesn't revolve around men and being men and being masculine (and perpetuating that male chauvinism perspective is shitty),

    and c) it's okay to call girls, girls, and to be a woman. That isn't a negative or lesser or othering l thing, despite how much of society raises us to believe.

    I'm also not saying that we don't want to be included wherever we feel comfortable fitting in, we absolutely do. And I think a lot of allies understand that. But just as many allies understand that trans women feel left out from being included in feminine spaces, as well. And sometimes, while we may fit in better with the bros, way more than the girls, that itself can feel awful and really get the dysphoria going. Sometimes though, some of us realize that the dudes that are bros we realize are hot and dumb and we want to be closer to them for... different reasons.

    Personally, I'm poly and pan and just want everybody to get along and not have weird stereotypically forced gender segregated hobbies, interests, and cliques anymore because that's weird and uncomfy. I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore I haven't eaten today yet. Homie is fine, I guess, but borderline, personally. I don't know a better replacement.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Honestly in my social circle "Dude" has basically become gender neutral.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "Bro" is gender neutral for me. Though I still try to avoid it with transfems I don't know very well (which is... all except one) since I can't know if they'd tell me if it makes then uncomfortable. Since even if you know how it's meant it can still feel bad.

    One of the very few things where I'll change how I interact with a transfem vs a ciswoman

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah I'm terrible at this. Almost put man in this sentance twice. I don't stop myself unless explicitly asked as it would be quite patronizing to treat them like they're somehow different than all the other women I call man or my guy however but when asked it's hard to stop. I do my best though

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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    As a transfem, I definitely appreciate this.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I used to use "man" in a gender neutral way a lot. Like "hey man" or "what's up man". Probably a '90s kid thing. But here's the thing, it's not about how I feel about the word. It's about how the person getting called that word feels about it. So I've made a conscious effort to stop using it. It's really not difficult to not be a selfish asshole.

    These days, the only person I still say "hey man" to is my weed guy.

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    [–] 32 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Is it weird that I'm a Trans girl and I still use dude like so much?

    And yet when other people use it for me, I feel like I have to ask how they meant it 😅

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I work as a bartender and call the most feminine cis gendered women the world has ever seen bro, brother, mate and man. I don't even want to do it and always feel embarrassed afterwards I'm just a chronic bruh poster.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    I always mean words like dude or guys as gender neutral, and luckily none of my friends have an issue with it, but I understand why some people wouldn't like that. Is there a good gender neutral replacement for the word?

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    My pre-teen daughter calls me "girl" all the time. Like something "what you mean, girl?"

    My favorite though, is taking all their slang words and using them. They hate it.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I have a brit friend. Rough guy and personal security specialist (ex military). His funniest quirk to me is how he will use "honey" and especially "sweetheart" with anyone, regardless of gender and with absolutely no malice.

    EDIT: LOL, this was meant as a response to a comment I can't even find now. Sorry, didn't mean to reply to main.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    One of the best feelings is saying "What's up dude/man/bro" to some one who's recently transitioned to male.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Fuck, this is my daily struggle. At this point if I realized I messed up in text I let the conversation go for a bit then quietly edit that part out, because when I used to apologize I ended up just calling attention to the problem, which was annoying to my friends and caused it to hit worse.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    Earnest question -- sorry if this is offensive or something everyone already knows -- but shouldn't you treat transwomen and ciswomen the same?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    I mean, mostly, yeah. The issue is, while most people will say dude is gender neutral, it really depends on the person.

    I'm trans, I have two friends who call friends dude. One is a woman who I have known for like 5 years and will call everyone and everything dude. When she says it I don't feel weird about it.

    I have another friend who says dude is gender neutral and I've known them for about the same amount of time. However, I have never heard them call a woman dude. They say they do, but I our mostly female friend group, I think I've only ever heard it towards me.

    That's really the issue. People will say it's gender neutral but not use it neutrally, and believe me, trans people notice it. Anecdotally, this is how my trans friends view it as well, but take my experience with a grain of salt.

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    There is a single person in the world I call Bro, and it's my actual brother, who is transmasc.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/dude

    Interesting suggested etymology, I'd never have thought dude about the type of person described there.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I call my female friends dude/bro/man every time

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