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I type on a keyboard with only my two middle fingers. This was likely more efficient for my tiny hands at five years old than methods urged by the typing CD-ROMs we had at that time. However as I grew more proportional to a standard keyboard, this early typing style has persisted. I have no idea where to even begin changing this now as it’s been deeply ingrained by decades of habit. Anybody have experience with changing a muscle memory based habit like this?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

There are several apps/websites to learn touch typing from the start, you go from using 2 fingers in their proper places up to the whole hand with exercises that go up in difficulty over time, just do sessions of a few minutes each day and thats it.

my personal recommendation would be https://www.typingclub.com/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Consciously

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

introduce a hard break and switch to colemak

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Mavis Beacon was how I learned to type and it's available for free. Not sure how this version compares to the old one but there were tons of different games to teach you all the different parts of the keyboard (like symbols or the number line).

As for breaking the muscle memory, maybe you can put tape on your middle fingers to try to make it feel difficult to type with just those fingers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Sounds like you need a touch-typing tutorial.

The best way to break a habit is repetition over time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Take your time like this: https://www.how-to-type.com/touch-typing-lessons/how-to-type-home-keys/

Then try a typing game like https://www.typelit.io/

It will take time and it will feel so awkward at first.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our typing class in high school was this teacher spouting nonsense letter combos and us following those dqyvafter day until we had covered home row , upper and lower, then moving onto coping sentences. Reptitiion works. Find your home row dimples on the key board then today is fjf fjf fjf fjf fjf fjf, tomorrow is another

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Look at these kids with their fancy keyboards with dimples on f and j. Hahahahah

When I started to repair typewriters as a hobby I was mildly surprised to see that they did not have dimples.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hows your backpain? You must be going way back on equipment. Everything I have had from 85 on has had a dimple or raised dash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now I'm curious about when the dimples were introduced and what was the first device to use them, I just took a look to my collection of typewriters and none of them have dimples.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I assume once key caps were molded plastic

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Chatgpt says 1950s. But who knows if that is accurate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think so, unless one single brand used them and no one else for the next 40 years.

Electric IBM typewriters from the 90s with keyboards that we would recognise today as a computer keyboard still didn't have dimples.

I asked a friend with a bigger collection of typewriters to let me know if he notices the bumps on any of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Totally unsure if this is accurate, by chatgpt is 100% confident LOL. Brand/Model Approximate Introduction Year Homing Nubs on F and J Keys IBM Selectric 1961 Yes Royal Quiet Deluxe 1939 Yes Hermes 3000 1958 Yes Olivetti Lettera 22 1950 Yes Underwood Standard 1929 Yes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wrote a metaphor with Plants and Habits.

I tried 10 finger typing and learned it bit by bit. Its like putting a pot with a plant in your imagination/brain. When you actively participate on trying to 10 fingee typing against how you usually do, you learn. Its the same as watering your plant.

But what happens when you overwater youe plant? The plant will die and so will your habit.

Do bit by bit similar how you would do to a plant.

Also, dont have too many Plants/Habist in your room, because you will become overwhelmed.

After 10 finger typing for 3 Months, I added Vim as a habit or learning task.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

vimtutor was a lot of fun back in the day, ngl

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Ah yeah. It was helpful. But I mostly forced myself to use it at a work experience... so learning jobs and tools was fun....

Wait. I now remember thay I first tried Vim and on the second work experience I forced myself to 10 finger typing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am in the middle of a major transition from using regular keyboards to a more esoteric keyboard.

I have been using QWERTY and regular row-staggered keyboards my whole life. Up until now. (38 now, been using computers since I was 2 (two), and touch typing for probably 20 years at least?)

I have been using the ZSA Voyager now for about a week, which is a split keyboard, first of all. It is also column-staggered, and last but not least, I am using a different keyboard layout, namely Colemak-DH.

I have gone from about 110–120 words per minute, to about 20-35 WPM. So I'm essentially about 4x slower now than I was before the switch.

It's... rough.

But I've read that a lot of people will say the same thing during something like this: the first few weeks, you'll second-guess your choice. It'll feel like you made a mistake. But if you persist, you'll give your brain a chance to build new neutral pathways and create new muscle memory, and once that happens, you'll be flying.

Regarding your own situation: one thing that I think helps with touch typing is to really look at a finger map of which fingers go on which keys, and try to type with that in mind. Also a tip I heard is that elevating your hands above the keyboard helps to be a little more accurate.

Best of luck!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago