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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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A former SWAT team commander with two master’s degrees, Whitney was terminated in August 2019 after raising concerns about alleged misconduct within the department. They included a tradition, revealed by Open Vallejo the following year, in which Vallejo officers would throw parties and bend the tips of their badges to mark killings committed in the line of duty.

The revelations are likely to impact state and federal litigation for years to come. Criminal defense attorneys have already sought to leverage badge-bending to impeach the credibility of police witnesses; civil rights attorneys amended ongoing lawsuits to argue that the practice — and the alleged inaction of senior officials who knew about it — justifies a federal takeover of the police department.

… Whitney’s lawsuit alleged that senior officials targeted him for retaliation after he repeatedly raised concerns about unethical and potentially illegal conduct within the Vallejo Police Department. In addition to badge-bending, Whitney complained about killings and other uses of force, time card fraud, unfair modifications to a promotional exam, and racial discrimination directed at a Black detective by the head of Vallejo’s police union, according to the lawsuit. The leak investigation, he alleged, “was simply a pretext for illegal retaliation.”

The lawsuit also alleged that Vallejo police officials sought to sabotage Whitney’s career. At the time of his firing, Whitney was the third-highest rank officer in the Vallejo Police Department, where he had worked for more than 19 years. He eventually found a job with the nearby El Cerrito Police Department, where he works as a patrol officer.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A cop, with master's degrees? How did he pass the police screening to get hired? He's clearly too intelligent to police

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not all departments do the intelligence limit thing, but this story demonstrates why some do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, is this an actual thing?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Moonguide's link isn't working for me, but here's another link to the same article.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It is absolutely an actual thing.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is what happens to the mythical "good cop" bootlickers keep harping on about. They get fired.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or they get shot when someone "accidentally" brings live rounds to a training exercise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yep, year or two ago

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Not all cops are bad cops. They get targeted by the bad cops, and get run out of law enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly, it’s the taxpayers footing the bill for this settlement.

Don’t get me wrong, he has compensation coming, but how about from the salaries of those responsible? Or from their departmental budget for the next five years?

Quit allowing them to dodge responsibility.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It should come from the cops' retirement/pension fund. Super Fucked Cop Crimes ought to disqualify you from that if not the job entirely

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Half of any police misconduct settlement should come from the Police Union's coffers.

EDIT: @RubberStuntBaby is a bootlicker.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Or their pension fund. Maybe 50/50.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

100% not half.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Vallejo has had problems for a long time. It’s really is a department that needs a reckoning.

I lived in the Bay Area for many years. I avoided that city like the plague.