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Back when Star Wars wasn't woke [genderfluid] (discuss.tchncs.de)
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That paragraph comes from the 1997 book The Bacta War, the fourth book in the series Star Wars: X-Wing

I find it "funny" when fans of sci fi and fantasy rant about how "back in the day, authors just told stories without any woke agenda" -yada yada yada- meaning such themes weren't discussed, but when you actually look back, sci fi and fantasy always was full of "woke" themes (mostly because that was the best (and often only) places where such things could be discussed and explored).

Idk, just wanted to share this and thought it might be interesting to someone here.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This reminds me of how Hamill described Star Wars (i.e., the original film) as "effortlessly feminist." Shit's been "woke" since 1977, you CHUDs.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, other than there not being bras in space and Carrie Fisher confirming she got casting couched...

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I believe the reference was to the content, not necessarily the process of its creation.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Sure, but would an anti-slavery work still be anti-slavery if it was produced with slave labor?

Or would it just be superficial posturing for profit?

I think you can certainly argue the point from a utilitarian point of view but that is dangerously close to talking about the ends justifying the means.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

You can appreciate art while still criticizing the artist.

You might choose not to give them any money though.

[-] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago

Sure, that's why I stopped supporting Feminist Icon Harvey Weinstein.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

They either forgot because they didn't think much of it since they weren't completely consumed by right-wing propaganda, aren't actual fans of the genre, or simply justify it by saying those characters aren't human. Either way it's a dumb argument on their part.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

they forgor

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I read this book 20 years ago, and new exactly where this paragraph came from. My mind is truly like a lint trap.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

All forms of art (whether it’s books, music, film or games), back when they created by actual artists (who seem to generally hold wildly progressive views), will be subversive, thought-provoking, counter-cultural, and a whole other bunch of descriptors that can succinctly be boiled down to ‘woke’ nowadays.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

maybe.... maybe star wars isnt so bad aftr all ~

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Star Wars isn't the issue. The Company behind it is.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

yisyis ofcours!

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

They/them aren't necessarily plural, though.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

You can't really differentiate there, right? So it doesn't matter how it's meant, the one being spoken to can decide.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Or the many being spoken to 😉

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