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Tesla's self-driving is still not working in Boring Company's one-way tunnels (electrek.co)
submitted 2 years ago by threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works to c/boringcompany@sh.itjust.works
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cross-posted from: https://lazysoci.al/post/16981536

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/40804688

Tesla uberbulls often like to say that Tesla is the leader in self-driving because while it doesn’t have a commercially available autonomous ride-hailing service like Waymo, it doesn’t rely on geo-fencing and mapping like Waymo.

They argue that if Tesla wanted to do that it could, but it prefers to focus on an autonomous system that could drive anywhere, anytime, without mapping.

However, it is questionable that they could do it if they wanted to because they still haven’t done it on a project much simpler than Waymo’s operations in Pheonix and other cities: the tunnels under Las Vegas.

The Las Vegas Convention Center Loop is The Boring Company’s first full-scale loop project currently in commercial use.

Elon Musk’s tunneling start-up completed the $50 million project in just over a year.

A Boring Company Loop system consists of tunnels in which Tesla electric vehicles travel at high speeds between stations to transport people within a city. The Boring Company said that it was working with Tesla to use its self-driving system inside those tunnels, which would enables to get rid of the current drivers and lower the cost of operation.

However, 2 years and several more tunnels connected to the Loop later, The Boring Company is still using drivers in the tunnels.

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[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 0 points 2 years ago

How? It's one lane, one way, right? How the fuck are you unable to get your current systems to reliably navigate a closed, controlled loop?

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How?

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My best guess is that optimizing FSD beta for use in The Boring Company's Loop project is just not a priority for Tesla at the moment. If TBC scales up quickly, these priorities could change, but I currently think that the Loop project will go driverless only once the above ground Tesla fleet also goes driverless.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Weren't Musk's hyperloop and tunnel projects always a scam? There's no point in getting these things to work if their only purpose was to discourage investment in public transit.

https://disconnect.blog/the-hyperloop-was-always-a-scam/

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

I'm not fully convinced that the hyperloop and Loop projects were always a scam. I think they were likely started out of frustration with existing systems, with a dash of over-optimism. The systems TBC have implemented so far do work, they've just been slower to scale than the early estimates.

As for discouraging investment in public transit, the Loop is a form of public transit, like a bus or subway. There's a detailed writeup here (apologies for the Reddit link) highlighting some of the potential advantages of the Loop over conventional trains in sparser cities. Many of these advantages have not (yet?) come to fruition, largely because TBC have been so slow to scale.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

From Musk's ~~hagio~~biography, by Ashlee Vance:

Musk told me that the idea originated out of his hatred for California’s proposed high-speed rail system. … He insisted the Hyperloop would cost about $6 billion to $10 billion, go faster than a plane, and let people drive their cars onto a pod and drive out into a new city. At the time, it seemed that Musk had dished out the Hyperloop proposal just to make the public and legislators rethink the high-speed train. He didn’t actually intend to build the thing. … With any luck, the high-speed rail would be canceled. Musk said as much to me during a series of e-mails and phone calls leading up to the announcement.

[-] Clasm@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago

It should literally be auto-correcting on a physical level by design. The only thing that autopilot should be doing is controlling the speed and brakes!

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

There have literally been a few systems like that since the 1970s at airports and university campuses.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The most ironic thing is the tunnel is fully controlled by him, so he could easily install emitters that could guide the car.

The main reason self driving is hard is the lack of such devices and unpredictability in the wild.

Both of those issues wouldn't be a problem in those tunnels.

But let's be honest, even with that, he essentially built a much less efficient metro.

Also his original promise of "hyperloop" wasn't a tunnel but a travel medium which supposed to be sending capsules in low air pressure.

[-] maniii@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"It is not that hard. Its not complicated. Install an air-hockey table inside a vacuum tube!"

:smh:

The brain-rot and copium needed to support a wage-thief conman.

Truly all the workers and employees need to be owners of Tesla and SpaceX. Management and C-suite should be relegated as worthless lower than janitors. Grifters are what these leeches are that managed to drive shit through a tunnel.

FSD and the Boring Tunnel was Tesla successfully subverting and destroying Public Transit funding and projects going forward in California.

Take a look at Italy ( a very corrupt but advanced European country with hilly terrain ). They've completed I dunno how many High-Speed Rail links with their Frecciarossa and Trenitalia plans.

California could have had this infrastructure NOW! If they had ignored Elongated Molluskrat and Tesla. Just imagine the grift and corruption to have abandoned the High-speed rail and Public Transit links !!!!

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