centrists won't abandon genocide.
It's all any of them have ever been.
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centrist, by definition, will give genocide equal weight in consideration to things like suffrage and inclusion.
Unless the status quo might be threatened by ceasing support for genocide.
Then the continued enabling of genocide becomes the only priority.
If you honestly think these people are the reason the Democrats lost, then you should adopt their policies instead of courting voters on the right. Even though I agree with a proper ceasefire, I don't think they're the reason the Democrats lost.
The DNC did not immediately respond to questions about the letter.
Surprise! 🙄
You guys want to take all the credit for getting Trump re-elected. Go cry to him.
Democrats keeping his name in the media 24/7, refusing to listen to the demands of its voters, refusing to primary Biden until the donor class stopped the flow of money, and the constant gaslighting of our day to day lives did more to elect trump than anything.
Democrats didn't point a gun to your head and tell you to stay home. The Democrat nominee wasn't God-tier-perfect, so you pulled a temper tantrum. If you opted to sit the election out, that was a decision you made. You made the active choice to help return the man you're supposed to be dead set against back to office. Don't go around blaming "Democrats" or anybody else for the choices you made.
These were your choices. Own them.
Maybe next time you'll learn that you don't stop yourself from shooting yourself in the foot by aiming the gun at your own head instead.
Imagine being so brainwashed that refusing to condone genocide and acknowledging liberals as being the left wing of fascism is viewed as god tier perfect. The mental gymnastics coming out of BlueMAGA is giving MAGA a run for their money
So the solution to a politician who is "condoning genocide" is to instead elect a person who was actively campaigning on genociding harder, seizing the land, and turning Gaza into beachfront property for the rich?
In typical fashion Democrats laid the groundwork for Trump to seize land and turn Gaza into beach front property. If Democrats had a spine and demanded their party primary a senile pedo that's funding and weaponizing a genocide there's a good chance trump wouldn't have won.
So again, your solution was to .... elect a different senile pedo that was campaigning on funding and weaponizing a genocide?
You don't stop shooting yourself in the foot by aiming the gun at your own head instead.
I didnt elect him, I don't vote for right wing reactionaries. I'm socialist, I only vote for socialists
As the song from Rush goes, if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.
You chose to sit this out, knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump. Take responsibility for your own choices instead of blaming others.
I made a choice that I still stand behind, and it doesn't include support for those that caused the problems we have. Liberals refusing to primary a candidate that had no chance of winning, then supporting a woman that was barely to the left of trump, that polling NEVER showed she had a chance, is what got trump elected.
Don't try and lecture others about responsibility when liberals failed to hold their own to the same standard.
The solution is not to platform fascists. Nobody wins in a fash vs fash election.
This is kinda basic to any reasonable person but something that the dems choose not to understand (because they support fascism).
You still think dems can win running a pro genocide campaign from (what they call) the left? That strategy is a special kind of stupid. Dems will not only continue to lose but continue to permanently lose voters from their base if they keep trying that. But I say go for it-- its time to get rid of the existing democratic party and form something new anyway. So good luck to you.
Take credit for choosing genocide over winning.
Why aren’t they demanding more of the party they helped to win all three branches?
Sure, blame a tiny oppressed minority for the fascism in the USA. Super brave.
It's certainly not the fault of the "party" who platformed a fascist and is now actively collaborating and co-working with another fascist. smh.
This is why the dems lose.
Democrats elected Trump and his group by refusing to listen to the demands of voters.
I just can’t get on board with this logic regardless how many times it’s repeated. Voters knew what they were voting for—how is it not on the voters?
The Democrats have cried about "the most important election of our lives" too many times, and people tuned it out. For people crying how terrifying a Trump presidency was going to be, their actions told voters that they would be happy to let this happen and keep working with the same individuals they told them would end democracy, and so far, they continue to work with the Republicans, with a very few conspicuous exceptions.
People warned the Democrats they could only run that play so many times before it no longer worked, yet they decided to stick with it anyway. If the Democrats wanted to win, they needed to have run a very different campaign, if not a different candidate.
It could be the headline writer to blame, but I'd like to recommend that these people stop making "demands" of the only party in our two-party system that recognizes them as human, and start working with them to make incremental improvements. It won't get fixed overnight, let's not pretend it can be fixed by making "demands".
I understand it's not their fault that our two-party system is as fucked up as it is. But, for all practical purposes, there are only two sides to choose from here, and one side wants to pave over Gaza and build resorts there. Gazans will be shipped out by the bus load, and the only ones allowed to stay will cater to wealthy Americans and Israelis. People who advocate for Palestinians, but refuse to work with Democrats, will be just as culpable in that outcome as the current US Administration who is deporting anyone they can who says publically that Palestinians are humans who have the same inherent rights as any other human.
I’d like to recommend that these people stop making “demands” of the only party
I'd like to suggest you stop trying to nag voters into doing whatever evil nonsense the corporate and far right genociding donors tell you they bought fair and square. Its not going to happen and you just look stupid trying to make it happen.
Join the repubs if you so badly want to service those donors.
You didn't even read the rest of it, did you?
I did, it just such a tired argument I didnt feel countering it yet again. Everyone else is sick of it too-- talking to you is increasingly a waste of everyone's time. Check out the party approval rating if you need some feedback on how compelling your dem centrist narrative is.