I’m get so mad thinking about how much better of a country we could be right now if the DNC and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz didn’t totally undermine him in 2016 to push Hillary instead. He likely would have utterly destroyed Trump in the election. I wish he would have just run as an independent after they submarined him.
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It was mostly due to their collusion against Bernie, but far from exclusively.
The 2016 Democratic primary didn’t even break a turnout record at 28.5% nationally.
The largest contributing factor in primary attendance remains to be the 30 partisan primary states that require voters to be registered as Democrats to vote in the Democratic primary.
Check your state’s primary type here: https://ballotpedia.org/Primary_election_types_by_state
While you’re not without a very valid point, I still have to wonder if the turnout issue was due to the crushing of the popular democratic progressive candidate in favor of the status quo candidate.
EDIT: I should also call out the “Hillary’s got it in the bag, no need for me to get the polls” folks also. But if I’m honest I felt the steam go out of the populous when HRC became the nominee. It didn’t all happen election night.
I believe that had a larger impact as well. I’m just familiar with the partisan primary problem from volunteering that year. Many registered independents or no party affiliation voters were pissed they couldn’t vote in NY. I’m sure that happened elsewhere too.
Thank you for volunteering.
I just distributed people into lines to keep them the same length. Far from heroic. I think they replaced me with orange cones when I went home. Lol
Notice how the Trump admin is just ignoring Bernie and AOC and are going against all the other, less effective ‘opposition’?
Imagine the reaction if Trump turned his secret police on Bernie? Washington DC would be a smoking crater by the end of the week.
Trump doesn’t need to go after Bernie and AOC, the Democrats are doing enough of that on their own.
I’m not saying the democrats are as bad as Trump but when “the left party” politicians fall to the right of national polling on a bunch of issues, and the party in general stands for nothing, things are fucked.
I don't think it would just be DC. The people on the East Coast would probably handle that quicker than everyone west of the Mississippi River could get there.
But if either of these two get taken down, any buildings that house Republican HQs or conservative groups are going to have a sudden increase in insurance prices.
Republicans benefit from any kind of discord or infighting within the Democratic party.
The benefits of keeping them around to divide the opposition (even if they're correct) likely outweighs whatever benefit they think they'd get from disappearing them or whatever.