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[–] 204 points 3 years ago (58 children)

Lightning is/was actually pretty great. Also remember that it was introduced before USB-C even existed.

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  • [–] 152 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    Yeah alternative was MicroUSB which is dogshit.

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  • [–] 74 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    I’m using my wife’s old android for YouTube. It has a microusb port and I really hate it.

    Lighting was leaps better than that, but usb-c is really the king of ports at the moment.

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  • [–] 58 points 3 years ago (16 children)

    Fun fact: Apple was part of the group that designed USB-C

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago* (6 children)

    That was really weird, actually. Apple was frustrated that the USB consortium wasn’t making progress. So they developed Lightning. Then sent people there to help develop USB-C, when they already had a competing connector…

    They should’ve been more patient, and sent people there directly, before developing a competitor, and adopted USB-C from the start.

    With that move, they isolated themselves and their customers. It’s this arrogant “we’re smarter than anybody else” attitude they show sometimes, that irks a lot of people and end up being detrimental for their image. (And I say this as a long time Apple customer).

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    [–] 166 points 3 years ago (41 children)

    Not fair. It was a great cable. It came out when everyone else was using mini and mico usb which both sucked hard ass. They weren’t reversible, and they broke easily.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    And technically the connector itself is way beter by clicking into place.

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  • [–] 91 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    And they made sure no one else could develop a design with the same characteristics by patenting the fuck out of it. Thanks apple

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  • [–] 45 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    What's funny to me is that the solution to long term use was in their hands. They could have licensed it cheaply to other devices until it replaced the mini USB, then charged whatever they wanted for use once it was the defacto standard. Instead they clasped too tightly onto it and now it's being forced into retirement

    With how many cheap android phones have been produced, they'd be making money even if someone wasn't buying an apple product, essentially taking a piece of the market share that wasn't theirs.

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    [–] 102 points 3 years ago (21 children)

    Lightning was significantly ahead of the competition when it came out in 2012. Micro-USB is a terrible collection of ports. C came out two years later though, and quickly surpassed Lightning in almost every way.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (13 children)

    The amount of USB type ports I've seen where the 'tongue' has been absolutely mangled is mind boggling — an issue that Lightning completely bypassed.

    For example, I'm repairing some kids PS5 and both back USB ports have had their pins twisted and the plastic snapped off. The HDMI port pins are lifting from the mainboard and the front of the unit is scratched to high hell. I see some of the worst treated tech at my job, and those plastic bits get damaged a lot. While Apple needed to move to USB-C six years ago with the iPhone X, I will respect Lightning for this one thing.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    All cables have issues. One thing I see often only with iPhone cables are they're always falling apart, especially the outer parts near the end.

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    [–] 78 points 3 years ago (30 children)

    Lighting was a good cable when apple made the switch from 30 pin connector and android was still trying to figure out whether they would use microUSB, miniUSB, and whatever the sam hell this is. And there was no interoperability

    Once USB became the standard their was no real reason to hold onto lightning other than it being proprietary and them wanting to hand hold their users

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    [–] 59 points 3 years ago (31 children)

    Good. Apple's whole ecosystem can go.

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    [–] 56 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    They never would if switched if it wasn’t forced on them. I’m glad they were forced no matter how apple spins it

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  • [–] 53 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Yes, Lightning was better than MicroUSB but by now I hope we can all agree, that it has overstayed its welcome

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago

    When apple changed to lightning it was in the middle of the accessory hype where there were loads of accessories using the 30-pin. People where outraged because they could no longer use any of their accessories. Apple then commited to lightning for 10 years in order to sooth the public image. This was 11 years ago, and they didn't switch last year to cut costs, but I'd argue it only overstayed it's welcome for a year.

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    [–] 29 points 3 years ago (18 children)

    Inb4 apple places a chip in the cable that only handshakes with apple devices?

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    [–] 19 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Prefacing this question with the fact I'm an Android user and have never owned an iPhone. Saying this in the hopes people won't think I'm an Apple fanboi trying to make a point...

    I haven't been that interested in the EU legislation around this until now; I'm curious what happens when something comes out that is better than USB-C? Are companies stuck until new legislation is passed or is there some sort of auto update to the standard written in?

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  • [–] 37 points 3 years ago

    The same thing that is happening now. EU mandated micro USB on all phones and Apple pleaded exceptionalism. Industry has moved on to USB C and EU is updating mandate. Apple is not being allowed to plead exceptionalism again.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago

    The law is ready for that. If and when the USB association agrees on a new standard thats not USB-C, then the new standard will be required after a transitional period. Right now it doesnt seem likely that this will happen in the near future, but in 10 years? Maybe

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    [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    It WAS a good cable about 6 years ago when even flagship phones still used micro USB. I would have killed for lightning on my old android phone. However, usb c just takes the cake, every cake. It has its own problems but the tradeoffs are miniscule compared to lightning.

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