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[–] 78 points 3 years ago (30 children)

Lighting was a good cable when apple made the switch from 30 pin connector and android was still trying to figure out whether they would use microUSB, miniUSB, and whatever the sam hell this is. And there was no interoperability

Once USB became the standard their was no real reason to hold onto lightning other than it being proprietary and them wanting to hand hold their users

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (14 children)

    Lol what? Android used micro USB all across the board on flagships. They then went straight to usb-c.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (7 children)

    That is straight up not true. I have multiple flagship devices with mini-USB and, within those, some have mini-A while others have mini-B. Google’s own Nexus devices had mini-USB connectors.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    The first "Google phone" was the HTC Dream (T-Mobile G1) with MiniUSB. Next was the Nexus One with MicroUSB. Everything after used MicroUSB until the Nexus 5X with USB-C.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    It feels like you’re arguing semantics. Are you only counting Google-branded devices? What about other Android flagships made by Samsung? HTC?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Google’s own Nexus devices had mini-USB connectors.

    I was addressing this point in particular. There were no "Nexus" devices with MiniUSB, so it was clear quite early that Google considered MicroUSB to "the right port" for Android.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    This might be true for a very select few devices. Before usb-c I have never seen something else besides micro USB on an android device (besides the micro USB 3.0 connection, but you could put a normal micro USB cable in those)

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Yeah, the common EPS initiative (mandating USB 2.0 micro-B) was in effect since 2009. That's right around the time smartphones were getting popular. Even my last slide phone had micro-USB. Maybe there were different models for different markets though, a product doesn't need to follow EU law if it's only sold in the US.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    That cable had one awesome feature.

    You could just plug in a micro cable and get a charge, so old cables in the car or at the office worked fine (well...as fine as Micro-USB ever worked), just more slowly

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Once USB became the standard their was no real reason to hold onto lightning other than it being proprietary and them wanting to hand hold their users

    Well if the lockout chip rumors are true, they've basically just made Lighting 2, Electric Boogaloo that just happens to be shaped like USB-C but is incompatible with all non-Apple approved connectors.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Once USB became the standard their was no real reason to hold onto lightning other than it being proprietary and them wanting to hand hold their users

    Other than the fact that they promised when they switched to lightning they wouldn’t change connectors again for a decade.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    The reason to hold onto it after USB-C was the literally millions of devices that had been released at the time that used it. There’s a reason people made a stink about moving away from the 30-pin despite Lightning being objectively better. It’s the same situation here.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    That is for external hard drives, the same ones that plug into Macs......

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    That is micro-USB 3.0 and it’s an annoying connector that now is just as obsolete as micro-USB 2.0 and for some reason, around 2014, sone smartphone manufacturers thought it was a good idea adding it on their phones. Didn’t last long and got replaced by normal micro-USB again (which is much worse than lightning imo).

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