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[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah..... Call me in 4 years when they vote republican again because it's not trump on the ballot and something something evil Democrats. I'd bet the same people saying this in 2025 were saying something similar when trump caused the COVID crash by doing fuck all to prevent the spread.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

You're right because the media has been captured by the right wing. And already to vote for Trump or believe in Elon means there's something peasant brain about you.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 hours ago

I’ll believe they’ll vote Dem when I see it. Trump was a fuck up before he was president and a terrible businessman. He was a fuck up when he was president and got hundreds of thousands of people killed unnecessarily because of his narcissism. He very plainly showed who he was in his words and actions. People still voted for him THREE TIMES.

They’ll fucking check the box for him or any other R next time because god forbid they take responsibility or self reflect at all for electing that shit stain.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I mean yeah, on one hand wtf did he expect? Of course Trump was going to do stupid shit. The man is incredibly stupid.

On the other hand, Trump is also very cruel and this is incredibly important. It's not funny.

Every Republican that turns against him makes the insane ideas a little less likely to go through. Less likely to try for a 3rd term, less likely to commit fully to the El Salvador concentration camp ambitions, less likely to disappear as many American citizens without trial, less likely to do a bunch of truly horribly gruesome and catastrophic shit.

You won't win by mocking them for joining you. You're being more stupid than you can afford to be in these circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 92 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

But also, fuck these people. Didn’t matter that innocent citizens with no charges are getting black bagged and tossed in cells. Didn’t matter families were getting ripped apart and deported. Didn’t matter that the bigotry against trans people has ramped up to being codified in congressional fucking rules levels. No it took an economic nightmare scenario personally affecting the livelihoods of these people for them to wake up AT ALL. Like fine, welcome to the fucking real world. You’re still a piece of shit in my eyes now start making better fucking choices, moron.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I really want to believe this.

But we have watched Donald Trump do so much stupid, evil shit in real time and we still ended up here.

There is only a small minority of people voted for Trump because of prices. They did it because they hate that the world is not constructed for them to be on top. They hate that there are three transgender high school athletes in the state. They hate that Harriet Tubman is on the twenty dollar bill. They hate that the Brown MnM is less sexy. They hate that they couldn't get a date in high school. I do not trust self-interest will prevail over blind, stupid hate after we have witnessed it not for so long.

If seeing people deported to extraterritorial prisons without due process, the only evidence of their crime being Donald Trump says so, is not enough to get these people on side, but their retirement portfolio getting fucked with is, I have no faith in them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What you're missing is that the majority of his supporters don't even know about the bad things because their news bubble hides it from them or they don't care because it doesn't affect them directly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

My mom and uncle never, ever hear anything he does framed negatively.

They spin it all day, every day.

My uncle has at least been trying to vary where he gets his news, but Facebook makes sure to enrage him with something about condoms for Gaza or some equally stupid shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Bunch of people around here are out-right admitting they didn't really pay any attention to what anyone running was saying. They heard trump say he would bring down prices/kick out immigrants/guns/no abortion/whatever single issue, and just checked the box. The manufacturing workers here are especially loud about how they feel deceived because they didn't listen to anything he actually said, or just didn't know what tariffs are, like at all.

Will any of them vote otherwise next time? I guess we will see. Bunch of them are honestly holding to the "short term pain, long term greatness" cope.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

"Wait, this affects me? That changes EVERYTHING!"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

That's what makes it even more awful. They're so selfish.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Didn't Trump tank the economy in 2019 with his fumbling of the COVID crisis? Didn't everyone's 401ks and private portfolios get tanked, leading to trillions in bailouts and a seismic shift in the composition of the labor market thanks to the 1.1M Americans killed by the epidemic? Didn't we already have a Congo Line of Republicans insisting they'd never vote for Trump again? Didn't we have billionaire CEOs lining up to condemn him? Kicking him off social media? Refusing to hire his administration's staffers? Divorcing themselves from his businesses and denying the RNC money on his behalf?

I seem to remember something about this from back in 2020. Democrats winning in a landslide that was (numerically) larger (but delegate-wise smaller thanks to decades of unchecked gerrymandering/voter caging) than the historic 2008 landslide for Obama. Everyone coming into office on a mandate to Never Let This Happen Again. People chanting "Lock Him Up!" from left, right, and center. MAGA in full retreat. Fascism defeated. Honor and Integrity Restored To The White House.

Was that just me? Did anyone else remember something like that happening?

Now these same assholes are back whining about their 401ks getting chewed up and spat out again? Come the fuck on. I don't believe you. You're going to vote Republican the moment FOX News tells you how Woke the other side of the ballot is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

You're not crazy. We've been witnessing a collective psychological phenomena as you've described. I'm sure psychology field has enough papers to write for more than a lifetime. People a century from now will be dissecting this period of history.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I remember him acting slowly on Covid because "he didn't want to spook the stock market", and then it tanked anyway because of his willful and criminal negligence in regards to Covid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

And then he knee jerked in the opposite direction and shut down everything everywhere instead of targeting where it was needed or just doing what epidemiologists had been suggesting from the beginning and concentrating on masks, testing, contact tracing, and quarantining. All of which caused a supply crunch and fed into inflation.

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

Too late and zero sympathy for all the fucking MAGA voters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

"Run the country like a business!"

Hires CEO who ruined every business he ever touched.

This fascist bankrupted a casino.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Just insane this is happening.

Um, this was a campaign promise. He promised to raise tariffs, and the natural reaction of the market to new tariffs is to drop. This isn't surprising, this is expected, and Trump said as much.

If you didn't want that, you shouldn't have elected Trump. Simple as. I didn't want that, so I didn't vote for Trump. Simple as.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The knuckleheads all thought that the other countries would be paying the tariffs because they didn't understand how tariffs work.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

well, it's been a quick and painful way to educate the American population on specific economic theories and topics

[–] [email protected] 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You don't even need to get into economic theory, just tell them it's a hidden sales tax, and that's all they'll need to know. Tariffs are pretty simple:

  1. product gets taxed when it comes into our country
  2. companies increase the price of goods to pay the tax
  3. products are more expensive for customers, because of that tax

They won't see the tax when they buy stuff, but it's still there, and it's largely the same as if the fed government levied a nationwide sales tax, but it only applies to imports. Most US-made stuff relies on imported materials, so it even impacts them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The Harris campaign literally did this, I want to say in a sideswipe during the debate. And Trump said nuh-uh, it's not a tax, and the campaign more or less shut up about it, wasn't a core feature of their advertising, stump speech, or debate strategy going forward, they opted for "save our institutions" and "he's going to raise the ever nebulous cost of living" (which got lost in the Biden is responsible for bird flu egg prices noise from the other side). Can you imagine betting it all on courting Republican voters, and being so easily talked off of the "he's going to tax you more" hill? I know hindsight is 20/20, but that's some frustrating shit to think about

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

"Tariffs are a Trump tax" was a core message of the Harris campaign... (Trump really was planning to tariff the entire world 10% since last August!) The last months of the campaign befoee election day are a blur to me, but did Harris really drop that line after the debate? I really doubt it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I find this baffeling. Multiple people, on different topics did disagree with his campaigns promises, and voted for him against their best interest. (Farmers for exemple) Their justification ? "He won't do it". Are you telling me you are voting for someone who promises to do things, in the hope that he does all the other things but the one that would negatively impact you ? REALLY ?!

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[–] [email protected] 456 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (26 children)

I'm all in for Trump randomly deporting immigrant citizens, sending a mob at the capitol, breaking the lives of millions of the minorities and the poorest, being best friend with a pedophile, insulting our allies and threatening annexion of other coutries, but crashing The Market?!??? That's not ok. He's suppose to help ME make money by exploiting others, if I have to lose money it's not fair!! ------- What a stupid broken evil country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

This country and a lot of the world has a me first mentality. A lot of people can look past some really fucked up shit if it's not directly causing them harm.

[–] [email protected] 211 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

This is pretty much what I get from that. Not a shred of empathy.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's the conservative MO, in my experience. Don't care until it personally affects them. That's why they'll beat their chests about the sanctity of marriage, but get divorced. Or talk about protecting life, until their mistress needs an abortion.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Even then, they don't learn empathy. "Well my case is different" they say while on welfare

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

https://youtu.be/yTwpBLzxe4U - Craig T Nelson, ladies and gentlemen, formerly known as Coach.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Lack of empathy means an abundance of evil.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 15 hours ago

"This shit is affecting me, ME!! He crossed a line I can't follow him out"

[–] [email protected] 44 points 15 hours ago

"Numerous impeachments? That's fine.
Convicted of numerous felonies? No that's fine, lol.
Adjudicated rapist? That's fine as well, she was probably asking for it, women amirite!!.
Six bankruptcies and multiple failed businesses, you say? Yeah that's also fine because it was the other people and not him.
Proven record of scams, even on charities? No, that's just good business."
...
"Wait, he's messing with my money now? This is intolerable, this is disgusting. How unfair, oh woe is me!!!"

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 hours ago

On one hand I'm happy he's changed his opinion.... On another how the fuck do you have two functioning brain cells and vote for this shit stain to begin with..... 😡

[–] [email protected] 299 points 17 hours ago (12 children)

It's too late. Can't trust him again.

If only there were signs before hand. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 125 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (10 children)

Well yeah all that terrible shit happened, but now it's ~~e~~affecting ME!

Edit: Grammar bee hard

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

These people have the memory of a goldfish when voting day rolls around

[–] [email protected] 51 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, yeah, talk is cheap. Let's wait for the votes next year.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There are several fake text generators so I don't trust any 'screenshots' with only one timestamp, especially one for 1am :/ why are you both up at the same time to exchange messages that fast

I can believe exchanges like this are happening, I'm just also fully aware that people like making up fake Everybody Clapped posts too, and this strongly looks like one of them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

One of them works for a hospital the other works at 7eleven

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

cRaZy He Is DoInG wHaT hE sAiD he'd Do

[–] [email protected] 93 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

What drives me insane about these "I can't trust Trump anymore" assholes of today is how much they didn't give a shit about all the racist, vile, destructive things Trump did in his first term.

This wasn't a light switch. They just been living with their eyes closed this whole time and now they're complaining.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

I hope this person and trans supportive conservatives start opposing slimy republican politicians.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao they still think they can vote these racist parasites out of power.

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