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Zorin OS 17.3 replaced the default Browser from Firefox(Old) to Brave(New). (blog.zorin.com)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In light of Mozilla’s recent policy changes, we no longer feel assured that Firefox aligns with our commitment to protect your privacy. This prompted us to revisit the choice of default web browser in Zorin OS 17.3.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

one of the worst distros ever so I guess this is pretty obvious choice and telling to some.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No, that would be manjaro.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Define worst? It does what it says, it's an easy stable distro for windows refugees. Slow updates doesn't make something bad

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago

A bad move. But again i hate that many distros have a default browser and they don't let you choose.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

the everyday linux distro that is famous for asking people for money for their pro version, cause they know most of the userbase is coming from windows and doesnt know that everything is free?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

They don't force you to buy anything. Almost all distros have a donation button on their site/git.

Nothing wrong with supporting projects you adore.

[+] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Once again like Zorin, it isn't required to use the base version. Projects take time and effort, support is optional. Debian also has a donation page gonna distrohop now too?

[+] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What does zorin lock behind the pro version? Some themes that you could make yourself if you wanted. And they package some apps that you could manualy download. What updates are you refering to?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Nah people just frame it as if you need to buy it, while that's not true. No I'm not defending scummy practices, I'm just pro supporting software that you enjoy. That people like you can't handle others opinions and immediately resort to calling it "fanboy or useful idiot." The world doesn't need to be a copy pasta of opinions

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I am not a Zorin OS fanboy or anything, but honestly I don't see anything scummy about requiring payment from the user to get access to certain features of the product. It's just shareware. It's their product FOSS or not. I think they make it clear about what you get for free and what you don't. If you don't like that you don't have to use their product and you can use an alternative instead. It's not like they were a monopoly in the world of Linux distros and you have no other option. I see nothing scummy about this. It would be scummy if they would do some kind of false advertising (adverties features you actually don't get or adverties features in a misleading way) or if they started moving features from the free to the pro version that used to be free, because some people may have relyed on these features.

Can you elaborate? Because to me this feels like saying that the local grocery shop is scummy because it wants people to pay instead of relying on donations. If the whole OS was paid like RedHat Linux is than it would be OK or you consider that to be also a case of taking advantage of users who don't know any better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

There is a difference between a donation and a purchase. You can buy Ubuntu Pro like Zorin Pro. Its not free

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why not fork firefox

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think maintaning a Firefox fork is pretty demanding especially considering you are already maintaining a distro. And there are already a lot of Firefox forks out there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

True

[–] [email protected] 171 points 1 week ago (29 children)

While FF's evil quotient has been on the rise, Brave definitely isn't a better option. If anything, librewolf is the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As a Librewolf user I wouldn't make it default for casual users this kind of distro is aiming for. Sure enabling logins to use it as a main browser is piss easy, but that's still more work than the average person wants to put into setting up their system.

Waterfox would be the better choice since it's just default Firefox in every way besides Mozilla's spyware.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 week ago (13 children)

How is brave the lesser of those two evils?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago

Crypto scam browser is never a better evil...

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago

Based on absolutely nothing, I feel like it isn't..

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 week ago

“Mozilla has a bit been shady lately, so we are making the difficult decision to change our default browser to something significantly more shady. We are confident our users will feel safer knowing their data is in even worse hands than before"

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago

That's a clown makeup moment for Zorin OS

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm actually not familiar with this distro. But if I installed a Linux distro, and it had brave installed. I would immediately switch.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They should've picked LibreWolf which ships with uBlock Origin. Brave is a disappointing choice because it supports multi-level marketing pyramid schemes which says enough about their moral compass.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I kinda dislike the default LibreWolf settings. Unsure if they changed it, but I remember that you have no history except you change it in the settings.

A Windows refugee wants a history. Addituonally, many pages just dont work.

My University also does capture a picture and reads it from the Canvas or something, which LibreWolf blocks. It doesnt show again if something is okay or wrong. I just got a Mail that I need to reupload it and go by myself to pickup my University-Card.

I wasnt the only one as Informatics has many Linux users and some Librewolf users.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Brave marketing has gone crazy to convince people it's less dodgy than Firefox. Come on!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Every time someone says anything positive about Brave I assume they're part of the Crypto scheme, or love Brave's CEO.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Seems like a strange choice. If anything i would've expected them to just use a firefox fork or something.

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