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[+] [email protected] 82 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

~~Doubles the workforce~~Removes the artificial societal limit that arbitrarily cuts the workforce in half

FTFY

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Removing gender roles in order to more equitably distribute the workload is progressive. You can remove morality from that equation and it still works, ergo it is absolutely something we should support and there are no reasons to perpetuate backwards gender roles.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Both of these things are good.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Are you trying to imply doubling the available workforce is not good? Its usually a good thing. While their motivations are cynical, those leaders are doing good.

...or are you trying to imply that keeping women out of the traditional work force (by only allowing them to work unpaid in the home in domestic servitude, labor that capital does not value) increases the value of male labor through scarcity, which would be preferred?

Sorry that second question kind of reads as an attack. A shitty coworker of mine said that to me unironically and tried to play it off as a joke when I pushed back.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It would be nice if one salary, no matter the gender of the breadwinner, could sustain a family.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

We shouldn't have to work to sustain a family, this idea is archaic.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think this inherently accepts the narrative that the work women were doing before had no or little value.

That care and emotional labour should not fall solely on women and we should all have the opportunity to partake in meaningful work but we shouldn't accept having to accept less time for care (and leisure) on some trumped up definition of what's productive/economic or not.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Way to turn the communist acheivement of women's empowerment into something negative.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, and no fault divorce keeps the workforce happier and reduces domestic violence (meaning less injured and killed workers), abortion on demand makes it easier for people to continue working, and socializing former domestic labor improves the efficiency of that work and frees up labor for leisure or other labor, but those things are still good and part of the socialist feminist project.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Because the former Soviet Union, with all its defects, never gave much of a shit about gender roles, you are going to learn science even if it takes your whole life. I guess some of that cultured stayed after Ussr collapsed

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Read Alexandra Kollontai, the liberation of women from household oppression was something they actually did give a shit about and was intentional.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago

They very much cared about gender roles, but also pretty early figured out that women in the workforce are economically beneficial. So the situation was (and unfortunately is) that women are shamed if they don't earn money OR don't look good OR don't cook/clean/care about children. I am honestly fascinated how average woman manages these three shifts. In academia btw there's still a huge gender bias even when women make the majority of students and generally perform better.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

But at what cost?!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago

This is more of an indication that the USSR had a functional public education system, and the dictatorship style, top down style education is indeed good at hammering (STEM based) academic skills into young brains. Arguably, most other non third world countries are doing a better job at the public school system than the US

[+] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

That's not what the science says btw. If you go to Russia and ask old people about how they feel about the USSR, they are significantly more likely to have favourable views of the USSR than young people who didn't experience it. If you are interested, you can also look at Generational and Geographic Effects on Collective Memory of the USSR.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Checks out with what I have heard, when I lived in a city of the former East Germany

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[+] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Vaguely hates communism because that's been the western cultural norm for the last century
Decides to talk to some people who have actually lived under communism; every single one confirms that your view of communism is wildly inaccurate and states their preference for communism
Goes back to hating communism anyway because both sides or something

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

The funniest shit I read today, the guy was sooooo fucking close.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (37 children)

I think you should use your experiences in Azerbaijan as a push to confront some of your biases, and re-examine your understanding of Socialism in the Soviet Union. It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't "totalitarian" by any stretch either. The benefits of the Socialist economic structure are pined for precisely because they worked, and did so for the common people. There are improvements that can and have been made in other Socialist countries, but these improvements would not have been possible without the brave Soviet people pioneering Socialism as it exists in the real world.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Telling me what to think is totalitarian

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

I used to live in Chemnitz, and that’s exactly what o have done, the answers were not as I expected, most people said that, one or two things were better, the quality of life generali has gotten worse.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Is this a meme ?

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