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I don't like paying taxes to fund public services, but I don't care what consenting adults do in their own bedrooms

Raging asshole.

I think the person saying it wants to avoid family or acquaintances giving them shit for not sharing their political views.

Most of my family is very conservative stereotype vile people. I've heard that exact phrase from the few left leaning relatives as they try to wigle out of unconfortable conversations. I myself am the black sheep that just tells the repugnicans that their views disgust me.

"I'm simple and don't bother to look deeper into anything"

I would think they want to not get caught up in a culture war, but also don't want a ton of government programs and costs and don't want to incur debt.

But people have no idea what anything means anymore and they just use words, like woke, and they use them wrong. So who even knows if people are talking about the same thing.

"I'm an upper middle class asshole but Republicans are terrible company and won't smoke weed with me"

"I like pot and hookers and pretend I'm better at managing money than you."

"I'm not a fan of murdering women, people of color, and LGBT people, but I still believe that Trickle Down Economics work! Long Live Capitalism!"

Or maybe it's Arnold Schwarzenegger who still want to pretend the repepublican party still exists and play RINO. Like... Dude just leave already, its a nazi party. 🤦‍♂️ (Maybe he's doing a deep-cover Terminator Infiltration? 🤔)

"I'm going to say I'm late for something to get out of this conversation."

Screaming from the far left, there are a lot of people in scarcity or precairity in our society, a society that would collapse if they all suddenly fell incapacitated from their want.

It is our fucking duty as fellow citizens to stabilize them.

Conservatism at its core is ignoring their need in the name of tradition. To the ninth charnel circle of Hell with that.

“I like to have my cake and eat it too”.

C-c-c-conservative combo-breaker!

Edit: Sorry, I just wanted to say that. But I do think that falls under right wing with a sprinkle of social moderate leftism but even so, the debate of "can gays have the same rights as all of us" takes away from the ultimate leftist pov of "we should all have better material conditions as a class, including minorities".

Edit 2: and fiscally conservative is ofc "you keep whatever pennies you may or may not have, I got money Idgaf I'm not giving it away" which is the misunderstood antithesis of the concept of the far left.

That you don't understand how capitalism works.

Housing and human rights matter and we should stop spending so much money on bombing houses and killing people.

🤔

I would think, "the accuracy of that statement depends on your voting record".

I'm someone who actually calls myself socially liberal but fiscally conservative, and that's because my primary concern (in the terms of moral foundations theory) is the liberty/oppression axis. In other words, I think leaving people alone is a good thing, and while it's not the only good thing and it needs to be balanced against other concerns, we should still be doing it more than we are now.

Two caveats:

1. I'm socially liberal because a free society requires tolerating even the people you hate. This is hard, and even many people who consider themselves tolerant because they simply don't hate a particular group aren't (and often don't want to be) tolerant in this sense.

2. I'm economically conservative because the freedom to act without government interference even in an economic context has great inherent worth (but I'll repeat here that I don't value it to the exclusion of all else) but also because the free market usually does a better job than central planning at making everyone prosperous. I don't care much about wealth inequality - a world in which I have two dollars and you have two million dollars is a better place than a world in which we both have just one dollar.

Edit: in practice I always end up voting for moderate Democrats at the national level, both because I think social issues are generally more important than economic issues and because neither party usually does what I would want regarding economic issues. However, I have more options at the state and local level.

Well this is what I think since I often fall into that kind of thinking and kind of reflected on how I recently voted on a proposition.

It was increase to the sales tax to make the area "safer and vibrant" and touted as a major way in this prop was providing help for affordable housing. My brain went immediately jumped to the more progressive leaning side and went, I'd love to help those who can't afford housing and yeah, I don't mind paying a bit more tax even though I don't particularly like the whole more regressive taxation kind of thing but overall it would be a great thing. Then I looked at the break down and saw that only 17 percent of the funding would actually go toward affordable housing.

That's where the more fiscally conservative part went, huh, well that doesn't pass the sniff test if you're making this about affordable housing and making things "safer" for them and the community dafuq is it only 17 percent of the budget there? Well digging in, 45 percent of this would have gone to cops and first responders, heavy emphasis on cops with articles going on about how the cops were looking forward to buying a helicopter. That fiscally conservative part of me went, yeah, that's wasting my god damn tax money then.

At that point my NWA part of the brain went, you assholes want to hire more cops with no change in hiring standards where we already have a problem with way too many racists ass police, give them cars, helicopters, more tasers and guns, and body cameras that we don't have access to the footage and no consequences if these assholes turn them off during an their encounters with the public? ACAB you bunch of tone deaf jackasses and Fuck the Police.

Needless to say, I did not vote for that increase in taxes.

Bellend

"I don't understand what those words mean and I'm taking the coward's way out of this conversation."

"I'm a liar, pretending to be a libertarian. Fund the police so they can shut down the protests for things I don't like."

“i vote MAGA, but im too much of a wuss to admit it out loud.”

"I pick the parties on their rhetoric, not their record."

I used to think this, because I was against government waste. But I also supported welfare programs, so I was just using the wrong terms for my ideas.

That they're a Democrat

Isn't this kind of a roundabout way of saying "I'm a libertarian that isn't into wearing tinfoil hats?"

Greedy cunt

"I'm a dumb cunt"

"I'm discriminating towards poor people".