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[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Trees are unbelievably cool. My favorite fact is that the actual living surface of a tree's roots, called the rhizosphere, consists of extremely small, ephemeral hairlike structures that supply the whole, gigantic tree. The large roots we think of are mainly structural. Where the actual "rubber meets the road" of the life form is incredibly small. Within that rhizosphere the interplay of plant, fungi, bacteria, and soil is so intricate that it's difficult to even say where the soil ends and the tree begins.

So many amazing things happen in this space. For example, the tree exudes sugars out of the roots because it creates an electrical gradient that pushes nutrients into the root cells. This way the trees, which are masters of energy efficiency, can use passive transport to uptake nutrients. Fungi have adapted to this energy and symbiotically extend the rhizosphere beyond what the tree is capable of alone. In fact an entire world of organisms has evolved inside the rhizosphere. Similar worlds exist in the bark, the cambium, the buds, the leaves, the flower, and the fruit.

It's like this enormous organism is a fractal masterpiece, and the closer you look the more clever it is. And we all depend on it, because plants are the only organisms capable of turning sunlight into usable energy. Apart from some things living off deep-sea vents, that's it. Even the energy you're using to read this right now passed through a chloroplast. It's just so cool.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Another thing that’s crazy about trees is that there is no such thing as a tree, phylogenetically.

As in: there is no branch on the tree of life for trees. There is no first tree from which all trees are descended. There are trees that have a common ancestor that was definitely not a tree, and there are there are plants that are definitely not trees that are descended from trees.

If you look at the tree of life for plants, you see trees evolving into other types of plants and evolving back into trees all over the place.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Lots of trees can be bushes and do just fine that way if they don't get big .

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Entropy at its finest

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from biology.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It's astounding how far simple trial and error has brought us. No need for scrum or agile!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

And all it took was eons of mass death.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is a really really neat way of looking at nature that I sometimes thought about. Nature is pretty fucking darn technologically advanced

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

They have JUST a slight time advantage: over 1.1 billion years. And that's LESS than ¼ of Terra's age.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, because we can't make that yet. If you describe anything in nature we can't make with technology as technology then it sounds like science fiction. That's just tautological!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Imagine aliens that don't have anything like trees.

They'd be so fucking jealous.

Imagine being born on a world made of just mostly slimy grasslands, with bare rock and deserts and a shallow sea full of parasites. And the atmosphere is awful, so running a marathon would be like physically impossible. Actually, besides the dry parts, that kinda sounds like Florida... At least Florida has trees, though. Imagine how shit Florida would be without any trees at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I come from outer space: Your grass is too dry, lacks life and squishiness. Your rocks are sharp and uneven and stupidly confusing. Your sea is too deep, too empty (damn scary) and it lacks nutrients. What even is the point of running marathons? Cultural quirk to want to move that fast. The Trees are nice though, gotta leave you that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

The trees are damn nice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

At least Florida has trees, though.

For now

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

They also look amazing, with a stunning variety of forms and foliage.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

To make it more sci-fi: We have only found such thing in one planet in the whole galaxy, maybe universe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That's not saying much, since we have only observed roughly 0.0000001% of our galaxy's planets. For all we know there are more planets with trees than without.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, it wouldn't have been surprising if you said universe, bur in our Galaxy?! That's crazy, when does a planet count as observed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Since we are talking about trees, I would say when we are able to tell if a planet has trees or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Lol, fair enough. I got zero clue how we'd find that out efficiently.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I know you probably just typed a random small number, but you’re gunna need at least 10 more zeros to be close. Absolutely mind boggling

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I figured it was enough zeros to drive the point.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

With biodegradeable solar panels, even. And tasty 'fruit' sometimes, too.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don’t forget the symbiotic organic filament network used to transmit raw materials and information between units

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Shrooms fo life yo

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yup. To put it another way, we'd be hard-pressed to replicate all of that with our current non-tree-based technology track, at even a fraction of the same efficiency. Chlorophyll is basically a miracle-molecule that makes all that possible, and we have yet to engineer anything like it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

We are likely a few hundred years away from actually synthesizing a close equivalent and if we do, this one most likely is THE molecule for planet Earth. Other molecules may be suited for other stars and other atmospheres, but clearly chlorophyll won the race of the most efficient simplest molecule to best utilize the resources of our planet.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Life in all its forms is pretty damn amazing. At work while I’m working on my computer shit I am fortunately able to look out the windows at the trees, the birds, the deer, and whatever else wanders by. And even at home we have a bunch of animals.

So much amazing stuff just gets ignored by so many people. That goes for pretty much the entire universe though, not just trees.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

This time of year the flowers and birds are quite active.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is there a term for this kind of sci-fi esque reframing of what we'd otherwise think of as "normal" to highlight how ridiculously cool or weird something is?

Thinking along the lines of Body Ritual Among The Nacirema

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Don't tell conservatives, they'll suspect the Jews invented them to like do something or something

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Star Trek writers seeing this and making a new movie

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Replace oxygen with dilithium and introduce a primitive species that safeguards it at conflict with the rolls die cardassians. Throw in some beastie boys for good measure.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You actually see this kind of shit in tech bro spheres where they describe some "new groundbreaking invention" using terms like this when it's something we already have, but they're version is shittier.

Adam Something on Youtube has a saddening amount of videos on this sort of shit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I was talking to someone the other day who was really gung-ho about carbon capture technology. I listened patiently, and then asked: "You mean like trees?" Which set him off talking about using genetically modified algae for carbon capture, which is a neat idea, I guess, but the impression I got was that there's just no money in planting more trees so he wasn't interested in them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

They also have several copies of their genome for redundancy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I had a huge Magnolia tree in my backyard. My backyard is not that big. But after I cut it down, the silence was deafening. It was very sad. The tree was too big for my small yard and it was dropping leaves like crazy. Every other day I had to go pick up like three trash cans of leaves.

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