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Brian Eno: “The biggest problem about AI is not intrinsic to AI. It’s to do with the fact that it’s owned by the same few people” (musictech.com)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

AI business is owned by a tiny group of technobros, who have no concern for what they have to do to get the results they want ("fuck the copyright, especially fuck the natural resources") who want to be personally seen as the saviours of humanity (despite not being the ones who invented and implemented the actual tech) and, like all big wig biz boys, they want all the money.

I don't have problems with AI tech in the principle, but I hate the current business direction and what the AI business encourages people to do and use the tech for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Well I'm on board for fuck intellectual property. If openai doesn't publish the weights then all their datacenter get visited by the killdozer

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For some reason the megacorps have got LLMs on the brain, and they're the worst "AI" I've seen. There are other types of AI that are actually impressive, but the "writes a thing that looks like it might be the answer" machine is way less useful than they think it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

most LLM's for chat, pictures and clips are magical and amazing. For about 4 - 8 hours of fiddling then they lose all entertainment value.

As for practical use, the things can't do math so they're useless at work. I write better Emails on my own so I can't imagine being so lazy and socially inept that I need help writing an email asking for tech support or outlining an audit report. Sometimes the web summaries save me from clicking a result, but I usually do anyway because the things are so prone to very convincing halucinations, so yeah, utterly useless in their current state.

I usually get some angsty reply when I say this by some techbro-AI-cultist-singularity-head who starts whinging how it's reshaped their entire lives, but in some deep niche way that is completely irrelevant to the average working adult.

I have also talked to way too many delusional maniacs who are literally planning for the day an Artificial Super Intelligence is created and the whole world becomes like Star Trek and they personally will become wealthy and have all their needs met. They think this is going to happen within the next 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The delusional maniacs are going to be surprised when they ask the Super AI "how do we solve global warming?" and the answer is "build lots of solar, wind, and storage, and change infrastructure in cities to support walking, biking, and public transportation".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Which is the answer they will get right before sending the AI back for "repairs."

As we saw with Grock already several times.

They absolutely adore AI, it makes them feel in-touch with the world and able to feel validated, since all it is is a validation machine. They don't care if it's right or accurate or even remotely neutral, they want a biased fantasy crafting system that paints terrible pictures of Donald Trump all ripped and oiled riding on a tank and they want the AI to say "Look what you made! What a good boy! You did SO good!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

brian eno is cooler than most of you can ever hope to be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dunno, the part about generative music (not like LLMs) I've tried, I think if I spent a few more years of weekly migraines on that, I'd become better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

you mean like in the same way that learning an instrument takes time and dedication?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

He's not wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

ai excels at some specific tasks. the chatbots they push us to are a gimmick rn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Reminds me of "biotech is Godzilla". Sepultura version of course

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Biggest" maybe. But it's not the only relevant problem. I think AI is gonna pan out like social media did, which is to say it's gonna be a shit show for society. And that would be the same no matter who owned it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Both AI and social media are a shit show because it's owned by a few people.

Unironically, the best social media is Fetlife. Not that it's perfect by any means--not by far--but it is designed to facilitate bringing people together.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's... just not true? Current frontier AI models are actually surprisingly diverse, there are a dozen companies from America, Europe, and China releasing competitive models. Let alone the countless finetunes created by the community. And many of them you can run entirely on your own hardware so no one really has control over how they are used. (Not saying that that's a good thing necessarily, just to point out Eno is wrong)

[–] [email protected] 148 points 1 week ago (41 children)

The biggest problem with AI is that they're illegally harvesting everything they can possibly get their hands on to feed it, they're forcing it into places where people have explicitly said they don't want it, and they're sucking up massive amounts of energy AMD water to create it, undoing everyone else's progress in reducing energy use, and raising prices for everyone else at the same time.

Oh, and it also hallucinates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In a Venn Diagram, I think your “illegally harvesting” complaint is a circle fully inside the “owned by the same few people” circle. AI could have been an open, community-driven endeavor, but now it’s just mega-rich corporations stealing from everyone else. I guess that’s true of literally everything, not just AI, but you get my point.

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