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[–] 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The left will feed a thousand people, in fear that one may starve. The right will starve a thousand people, in fear that one is undeserving.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    “Undeserving” covers that, unfortunately.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Ugh…

    Yes, kind of. Problem is that from the right-wing pov “undeserving” is a euphemism, almost a dog-whistle for “brown” or in reality closer to “low on their made-up hierarchy”

    Right-wing POV: Why are they undeserving? Because they’re not white. Why do we feel that non-whites are undeserving? Racism. Why do we care about who deserves what? Hierarchy/“god’s plan” which put us on top and them on the bottom.

    You start out in 1954 by saying, “removed, removed, removed.” By 1968 you can’t say “removed”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “removed, removed.”

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    [+] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Watching centrists talk to the far right like they're some sort of sensible:

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    lol. In America "fat left" is getting basic needs met.

    i suppose it's something.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)
    1. Theres is no far left in the US, Bernie and AOC are run of the mill social democrats
    2. The extreme left and right both lie to get to power, once there is the same shit, I was born in a country freshly out of a far right dictatorship and grew up in another that got themselves in a far left dictatorship. Same thing, extreme poverty for the people, opression, censorhip, persecution, murder. The message was good , they've promissed unicorns and rainbows and now here we are, my family had to run away and is now spread across the globe. Fuck the extremes, they are the same fucking thing exactly.

    I myself become a hard core social liberal, but can get along with social democrats, classic liberals and conservatives, other than that steer clear

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    No no, they pretend (even to themselves, I think) that they can't tell them apart, but they can and like what they see from the right more. They deny it because it's not politically/socially expedient, but this is why when push comes to shove they invariably fall in with the right.

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Centrists are right-wingers pretending to care about leftist opinions

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Wish it was this mild. Centrists are more like "Hmm, how can I get the votes of the bigot? A riddle for the ages." And "Why can't those assholes complaining about affording healthcare shut the fuck up, they're breaking my concentration on how to win over the bigots".

    Centrists hate the left but will take their vote. They are horny for the right and will abandon any left principle of it'll get their vote.

    Hence Kamala running a Republican campaign.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    @FenrirIII
    That's more like "center left".

    At least some definition of "Far Left" would be more: "we're gonna get everyone's basic needs meet by exterminating entire social groups because they're impure". It's not the only one, but it's the one that "centrists" would say it's no different from the "far right".

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (31 children)

    At least some definition of "Far Left" would be more: "we're gonna get everyone's basic needs meet by exterminating entire social groups because they're impure".

    What the hell are you talking about? "Exterminatidg entrire social groups because they're impure" sounds very right-wing to me.

    Are you trying to peddle some weird horseshoe bullshit?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I didn't think voters had access to "exterminate the rich" type representatives though. I can vote for neoliberal with a dash of mildly left (the Radical Left™)... or GOP which are actually far right.

    Tax the rich, restructure police, equality at a snail's pace. That's the far left in reality for voters. Centrists really are bastards.

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