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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Thats how elections work everywhere in the world... Wtf are you talking about?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I need to mention that the reason why 20 million fewer voters voted is. Because of the massive voter suppression that was done prior to the 2024 election. So many people were purged from voters rolls and many polling places were closed it wasn't funny.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

While I'm sure that was part of it, a lot of people didn't vote for other reasons as well. Someone I know who you would probably consider "left" didn't vote at all because of Harris supporting Israel (I'm aware trump is worse for Palestinians), and I know a bunch of other people I've spoken to online also didn't vote at all for the same reason.

Plus I suspect a lot of other previous Biden voters didn't vote at all for similar reasons, like possibly all party's are owned by the rich.

Bottom line, a class war is needed to get the rich in check.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

This is true of every election except maybe one.

Nobody always wins. The "winner" is always elected by a tiny minority. It's a fundamentally corrupt system. Always has been. Literally concocted by genocidal slavers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

Not a mandate, but voter's apathetic acceptance.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

pfff... he won twice. if americans would want a real democracy that wouldnt have happened.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Yeah. American here. It’s generally the case that the president gets votes from a minority of the population. Nothing new there. Unfortunately those of us who live here can see that the support for this monster is very real.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

It turns out politics is very complex and difficult to manage.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Let's get a count of all of the votes that were tossed due to targeted voter registration purges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I also would like to see that.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

How gross it is, considering what was in the line that so many didn’t vote. Also I bet the duck he cheated.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 hours ago (9 children)

Those who didn't vote, who thought their vote didn't matter, that no matter which politician gets elected to whatever office.... they're complicit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Or suppressed. I'll give some anecdotal examples. I have a friend that lives in a major metropolitan area with over 2.6 million people. When he applied to get a photo ID (he lost his previous one and needed a new one), the soonest appointment available for the entire metropolitan area was 3 months out. That's just for the appointment to apply for the ID, not actually receiving the ID. You are required to have a photo ID to vote. Then, voter registration in itself must also be completed at least a month before an election. Now, let's talk about the process of actually voting. I've personally stood in line for over 6 hours to vote. A lot of the people waiting in line had to leave to pick up their kids and other things. If you don't pick up your kids from school or daycare at very specific times, there are serious penalties. While I was waiting, there must have been at least 40 people in front of me that had to leave before voting. Many of them had waited in line for over 4 hours. For most people, waiting in line is the only way to vote. Only the elderly and disabled qualify to vote by mail. Make no mistake, voter suppression is very effective, and it is implemented specifically in areas that vote against what the ruling party wants. In Trump leaning areas, the lines were no longer than a two minute wait if they existed at all. Trump never would have won either election if it wasn't for voter suppression.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

The most complicit are the genocidal wackos who nominated a cop/prosecutor that campaigned to the cheyneys.

Nobody should be shamed into voting for trash.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

If you live in a blue state and didn't vote, how are you complicit?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (17 children)

The only significantly statically impactful group of "non voters" is the population that was unable to or inconvenienced heavily by voting.

Meaning the major majority of voters that didn't vote were either unable to because of other obligations (work, childcare, etc) with a small subset of that being people that were no motivated enough to deal with the inconvenience of visiting a poll line (4hours in line) after a 10 hour shift.

These are the vast vast majority of people that did not show up. Beyond that an even smaller percentage was the "protest voters' that even if 100% of which went to Harris she still would have lost.

I guess I just want to say "in conclusion" that the vast majority of voters that didn't vote were giving you your Starbucks or your Taco Bell.

I think we should spend less time blaming voters and more time being critical of the politicians and party that gives zero reason for the working class to "risk" their shift for.

No one's gonna "risk a shift" for the policies and messaging that Harris communicated. You don't get people to "risk their shift" for voting for a lesser evil.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Sometimes i get the feeling that voting on a tuesday is working as expected: to keep working an poor people from voting...

Germany has voting per defintion only on sundays, and (at least where i live) the voting booths are everywhere. You can vote either per mail, or from 8:00 to 18:00 at a booth, and i never had to wait in a line to vote, and i'm in my 40s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

No it's the voters fault. Never forget. \s

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

I guess I just want to say "in conclusion" that the vast majority of voters that didn't vote were giving you your Starbucks or your Taco Bell.

This is a very clear and succinct description of something I've been struggling to articulate for years. Affluent liberals can tell their boss they're taking a long lunch to vote, and they don't understand why shift workers don't do the same.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I really appreciate your comment, because here we are months later and still a lot of folks don't seem to be getting the big picture.

Maybe they need someone to blame other than the GOP, and folks who didn't vote are the easiest target.

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