Rick: "You know, Mr. President, the more you use that word, the less impact it has. At this point, it's like a terrorist is just a guy you don't like."
Pres: "Shut up, you terrorist!"
This is from memory, so isn't gonna be fully accurate. Ah well.
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Indeed, the Government of Putin protecting Nazi owned property.
It’s weird, fascist, demented behavior.
By far the absolute worst election promise of Trump47 was to give blanket immunity to police for murder, which directly leads to "don't let this extortion turn into a murder, and don't say liberal shit".
Musk recommending to pardon George Floyd cop murderer is a ploy for protests and crackdowns on protests. During Trump45, the Jerusalem capital/embassy was opportunity to murder protesters, and he also amplified George Floyd protests as a re-election ploy to keep suburban moms safe from the uppity negroes.
Musk is intentionally inciting domestic violence through his divisive and hateful recommendation. He'd just prefer the violence be directed at angry negroes than his cars.
Terrorism is politically/religiously motivated violence.
So is he trying to say that attacking a (supposedly) independent, non-government owned corporation, which is (supposedly) held and headed by a person who is officially nowhere on any governments payroll, is political?
This is just like with the murder of Brian Thompson, the charges reveal the truth of what they think.
This is the inevitable conclusion of decades of justifying endless violence by labeling people "terrorists". The word has no meaning other than "target of the state". And now the state is this.
"And now the state is this."
"It was at dawn of Abril 25 of 1974, during the parade of Practical Cavalry School, in Santarém, that (Capitan) Salgueiro Maia uttered the famous speech:
' Gentlemen, as everyone knows, there are various modalities of State.
The socialist States,
the capitalist States,
and the state we came to.
Well, in this solemn night, we will end the state we came to!
So, whoever wants to come with me, we go to Lisbon and we will end this.
Whoever is voluntary, go out, form up.
Whoever doesn't want to go out, stay here.'
Every 240 of those man that eard this words, spoken so firmly, so characteristic of Salgueiro Maia, formed up immediately in front of him.
Next they went to Lisbon and marched on the dictatorship. "
And with more and more military/citizens joining in through the day, they ended a 41 year old dictatorship that kept Portugal in poverty and ignorence.
Another great man, Commander Seixas Louça, of the frigate "Gago Coutinho" in the river Tejo,
going out to open waters to join a NATO mission, was order to go back up river, stand anchored in front of "Terreiro do Paço",
(the open square and nevralgic center of Portugal, from where most of the ships went to the discoveries of globalisation more than 500 years before, and where the Ministries are today)
AND ORDERED TO SHOOT on the city, on their brothers in arms and citizens, if the "movement" continued.
He refused. He did take the ship there, but didn't anchor and pointed the guns up.
The Wolrd needs more people like Capitan Salgueiro Maia and his 240, that knew when to take action,
and more like Commander Seixas Louça and his battleship of warriors that knew when not to take it, because they knew what war was, and that the "movement", wasn't it.
The only good things about Antonio Salazar (Slytherin....yeah Rowling used his last name as the first name of the wizard) was (mostly) keeping Portugal out of the wars (mostly) and dying.
Certainly.
my mother went to work in Lisbon this day and returned safe, no one died. My dad was enlisted overseas and returned home soon after. and a couple of years later, i was born. We still celebrate these heroes every year in our national Revolution day. I was fortunate to not have to know what living in a dictatorahip is
I am Spartacus!
Those are the "goodie" terrorists... The fascists!
He's talking about the "baddie" terrorists... The antifascists!
Their goal is also to normalize political persecution through designating everything antifascist as a crime.
terrorism
n 1: the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
Well, kind of sounds like textbook terrorism. And to be clear, I'm cheering on these terrorists. This is terrorist on terrorist action and, in my opinion, a fair and fitting response.
One person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
If that's the definition, then I think it's textbook not at all terrorism. One of the standard definitions of violence, and the one that I agree with, is using force to hurt a person or living being. In other words, you can't use violence against an empty car dealership in the middle of the night. So it's not violent.
The target is the company owned by Elon Musk, and he is a member of the government. In other words, the act of inflammation is a protest against the government, not against civilians.
It depends on the arsonist, but I don't see these acts as ones that are designed to make people fear anything. Rather, they are designed to help people band together and fight against Elon Musk and his evil Nazi ways.
And then you've misidentified the goal. I think one of the goals, other than helping people band together, is to hurt Elon Musk's company economically. Now you might argue that people want to inflict economic costs upon him because of related political goals, but now you're getting into indirect reasoning, which would allow you to argue that anything, any act at all, or not acting in the first place, counts as terrorism.
Assume I somehow manage to blow up that obelisk in Washington DC. Would you consider this terrorism, even if no person got hurt?
How is that relevant? The definition doesn't fit the situation. If you want to propose a new definition, feel free.
The relative risk of trying to do that is such that you are highly likely to injure someone. If no one got hurt in that type of attack, it's by sheer luck.
Also, not a soul thinks people attacking unpurchased vehicles is a threat to escalate to hurting people.
It's a crime, but not everything is 'terrorism'.
What about something different, farther away from civilian population centers being destroyed? Like, I don't know, Mount Rushmore being exploded? Or someone burning down an empty library? Maybe someone gaining access to an airport and throwing a molotov at the turbines of an empty jumbo jet?
These examples are explicitly more severe than damaging Teslas. But only few would argue any of those aren't terrorism, be it perpetrated by anti-imperialist Native Americans (exploding Mount Rushmore), by anti-intellectual fascists (burning down a library) or by environmentalists (molotov @ plane). All of these groups would have political motives which is really all that's needed for damaging property to be terrorism.
Whether terrorism can or cannot ever be justified is a different question. But I'd argue attacking Tesla dealerships through violent means is domestic terrorism - be it shooting them up or setting them on fire.
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It's not terrorism if it's not even trying to kill people. That's just destruction of property or arson in this case.
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