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Summary

A YouGov poll in five Western European countries found majorities view Donald Trump as a threat to European peace, with concerns rising after he suspended military aid to Ukraine.

Most respondents oppose Kyiv’s exclusion from U.S.-Russia peace talks and doubt Europe alone could support Ukraine.

Support for increased defense spending remains limited, despite fears that Russia could attack again.

Proposals for European peacekeepers in Ukraine have mixed support. The survey highlights growing skepticism about U.S. commitments to NATO and European security.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

Doesn’t the majority of everyone everywhere think this by now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We’ve been saying this in the U.S. since 2016.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago

Is that the same 'we' that voted him in again?

[–] [email protected] 124 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A majority of Western Europeans also have a better education than the majority of my fellow American citizens.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If US commitment to the NATO nuclear umbrella is questioned, Russia will attempt to capitalize on it.

Threats of nuclear action are considerably more believable when there's no threat of nuclear retaliation. Ukraine would never have been invaded if they still had nuclear weapons.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Many europeans always have thought about USA as a threat to peace. The migrants crisis in europe is a direct result of USA fucking up the middle east for decades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

My British Dad, circa 1988: "America's a strange place, they usually do the right thing, but they're a bit nuts... they love guns."

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

And now we have far-right ultranationalistic movements popping up through Europe as a result.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

And we fuck up other places to, lets not sell the US short.

https://youtube.com/shorts/l3gBif0K6cc

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago

Objectively he is.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago

Majority of western Europeans are paying attention, survey finds

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Most if us un the US too, probably.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Both supporters and opponents.

The supporters want violence. Us opponents see that he is pushing for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I wish, but if that were the case he wouldn't be in office.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

A minority of western Europeans are idiots.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hi guys, new here on lemmy. Just want to say FKUC Trump!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welcome, avoid the tankies

[–] [email protected] -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

I'd rather avoid using the word "tankie" and deal in actual ideas rather than tribalistic pejoratives that bring nobody closer together.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

Those words exist for a reason.

The reason being that social media is used to spread russian disinformation at high quantities. So if you see someone praising an imperialist police state full of fascists while claiming some other country is an imperialist police state full of fascists, you can be sure you shouldn't bother debating them since they are being paid to keep repeating the same nonsense. Just call them a tankie and be done with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Right, let me fill you in, Tankies are people who support authoritarian regimes in Russia, China, North Korea, etc. They're all over Lemmy. Sometimes they're very forthright with their ideologies, other times they try to astroturf and pretend to subtly align with our ideals so that they can influence us to do the following: Harm Western World Powers, Dismantle Democracies, Empower China.

The often use words like Bourgeois and Capitalists, speak of NATO as if it were militaristic imperialism, and oppose nonviolent political reforms of all types. They claim to support communism and/or socialism, but they absolutely will not promote any politicial path to implement those which do not involve overthrowing the state or without weakening "liberals". Note that they do not mean a Liberal party, they mean the concept of liberalism.

Primarily you find them on Lemmy ml, Hexbear, and lemmygrad but you will find them all over. They are here. And they hate you. They want your neighbors to get fed up and kill you or vice versa.

avoid the tankies

Or intentionally piss them off, either works

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

At this point that's like saying the meteor was a "threat" to dinosaurs

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Only western Europeans? I would think eastern Europeans are even more terrified of the implications of Trump being an obvious FSB asset.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They only asked Western Europeans.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

If it was only peace lol.

He's a threat the very survival of the specie.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think at this point for majority of the world, this is common sense now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're right damn this is just hitting me. This chain of events has enabled china to take over much of the Pacific islands and other nations they 'claim' are theirs by historical right. The russians will come for the European continent and the usa will make majorly predatory moves on the American continents. Fuck, the entire world has been made unsafe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Let us know when the eggs fall in price. Then we'll know it was all worth it. Cheers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yet support for increased defense spending is limited. I guess there may be a change in attitudes once the Americans enact tarrifs against the EU and/or formally leave NATO.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most countries have announced increased defense spending with support across the political spectrum and EU defense stocks are one of the few safe havens left during this tariff nonsense. France has offered a nuclear umbrella to its neighbours. Poland is up to 5% GDP on defence. Not sure what you mean by limited support but maybe I misunderstand.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

They don't even have to leave NATO formally, just undermine confidence in article 5 enough that it's no longer a deterrent.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Read that as: Majority of Western Europeans suspect ocean of containing water.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

No shit Sherlock

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

"The great peacemaker" needs big wars so that he can eventually "make" a peace...

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