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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

If Trump ends NATO he will go down in history as one of the US's unintentionally best Presidents for all of Humanity, despite the rampant far-right agenda that would still end up crippling the US Empire.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

True. Annoying isn't it? I hate Trump and all he stands for yet if he manages to do that, it'd be the most beneficial measure for all the servant countries.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Absolutely, the memes about Trump being hand-picked by God not to restore the US Empire like Evangelicals believe, but to end it, may yet prove more accurate than not. I may be an Atheist but that would certainly be a funny outcome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

NATO is essentially a millitary alliance of the largest Imperialist powers, without getting rid of NATO the global south has a very hard time building up. NATO is more of a guarantee of US supremacy than anything else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks! Never really saw it that way before.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

No problem! If you want to learn more, I recommend starting with Operation Gladio.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Im getting my suit ready aswell

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The US won't get rid of NATO. If they did, they would likely have to give up all of their European military bases.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

The relevance of Europe stemmed from USSR being the main adversary of the US. Today, it’s clearly China and the US is very openly saying they want to pivot to Asia. In this scenario, normalizing relations with Russia and pulling out of Europe makes perfect sense. The US can’t be everywhere at once, and they have to prioritize now that they’re dealing with multiple peer adversaries in form or Russia and China. Europe simply doesn’t have the relevance that it used to.

NATO was created to keep Europe subservient to the US, but now there’s a rift in policy towards Russia. The US starting direct talks with Russia is a clear sign that from US perspective Russia is the more important player. Unless Europe knuckles under, then I fully expect the US to abandon it.

Furthermore, US pulling out of NATO will provide a big stimulus for the military industry in US, which will boost the economy that Trump desperately needs right now. Europe is already in panic and they’re talking about allocating vast amounts of money to defence. Given that Europe lacks any serious military industry, much of that money will go directly to US.

Another factor here, is that US is not terribly happy about the EU existing. Vance was pretty clear on that point at Munich. With NATO being gone, the US will have an easier time attacking the EU politically. The ideal situation from US perspective would be if EU broke apart and they could deal with individual countries from a position of absolute strength.