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Firefox maker Mozilla deleted a promise to never sell its users' personal data and is trying to assure worried users that its approach to privacy hasn't fundamentally changed. Until recently, a Firefox FAQ promised that the browser maker never has and never will sell its users' personal data. An archived version from January 30 says:

Does Firefox sell your personal data?

Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That's a promise.

That promise is removed from the current version. There's also a notable change in a data privacy FAQ that used to say, "Mozilla doesn't sell data about you, and we don't buy data about you."

The data privacy FAQ now explains that Mozilla is no longer making blanket promises about not selling data because some legal jurisdictions define "sale" in a very broad way:

Mozilla doesn't sell data about you (in the way that most people think about "selling data"), and we don't buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of "sale of data" is extremely broad in some places, we've had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

Mozilla didn't say which legal jurisdictions have these broad definitions.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So sad. I have used Firefox since 2006. Today I removed it for good from all of my devices. So long old friend. I cant wait for Ladybird to release.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

what is your current open source / FOSS alternative?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yup I'll be sticking with Firefox forks.. Unfortunately i have to keep a chrome install around because i can't get alternative browsers to do redirects for PayPal

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Hm? Paypal redirects work for me, even in my browsing profile with trimmed useragent and strict same-origin/cookie policy. This one was never a problem, even if no other webäpp worked. Seems they have good fallbacks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

the problem with that is - if everyone switches to forks, development of firefox stops, killing it, and the forks are guaranteed to follow.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

You can always install a ~~fork~~ different browser

https://mullvad.net/en/browser

~~librewolf.net~~

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

so is this them trying to protect its users while adding nuance for the sake of legal protections, or is this them pretending to do that in order to profit off its users?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I haven't been presented with any Ts and C's. Do they apply if I already installed Firefox before this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Anyone recommend an iOS alternative?

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