I am shocked by this - the quote in below is very concerning:

"However, in 2024, the situation changed: balenaEtcher started sharing the file name of the image and the model of the USB stick with the Balena company and possibly with third parties."

Can't see myself using this software anymore...

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[–] 129 points 2 years ago (2 children)

♬ Hello dd my old friend
I’ve come sudo with you again ♬

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    That's interesting, apparently it was mentioned on github but nothing seems to have changed in the end

    https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/3784

    Haven't used that software in a long time but maybe there's an opt-out somewhere during runtime? Although I don't see why a user needs to be required to opt out of nonsense like this when just writing firmware to a USB disk.

    Only ever touched balenaEtcher when some project or distro recommended it. Overall prefer Rufus for this sort of thing when working on Windows.

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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you need a FOSS, cross platform GUI for bootable USB sticks, Raspberry Pi Imager is a really good solution.
    It is mainly used to flash SD cards for RPIs, but also you can burn any ISO on any support with it.

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    [+] 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Is no one aware of Fedora Media Writer? It's FOSS and the most trustworthy ISO burning software in existence. It's only issue is that its named as if it is written only for producing Fedora bootable media. It works for everything.

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I remember a while back, years before this surfaced, there was a thread on /g/ with a group photo of Balena's employees and a caption like "why does it take so many people to develop an electron wrapper around dd". Obviously it was low effort engagement bait (balena does much more than etcher), but the comments were full of people calling the company a glowie honeypot and the like. Moral of the story: Trust the schizos, they sense spyware form lightyears away.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Sudo dd if=tails.iso of=/dev/sdb

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    i still don't understand why anyone would use etcher. it's an electron wrapper over dd. it's 80MB where rufus is 1.5. when it appeared there were already other programs that did its job better.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I like clicking buttons that have a text on them saying what they do instead of trying to memorize a gajillion terminal commands and flags where I have to enter more commands and flags to see what they do.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    plus it's some some sanity checks like not showing you your system drives. Or warning you when the drive you are about to nuke is suspiciously large and maybe not the usb drive you actually want to use.

    This is basically the main feature. Stopping you from fatfingering the wrong drive

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago*

    Friendship ended with Balena

    Now Rufus is my new best friend

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    I tried belenaEtcher once on my Mac... And it seemed to me more like a spyware than an actual software, I was a bit confused and never used it again.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    Rufus is great! I worked with the maintainer to fix a bug in hardware they didn't have and it was a very pleasant experience.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Good luck with the binary blob!

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    For some more context:

    https://lemmy.one/post/19193506

    💀💀 seems like dd commands and gnome's MultiWriter might be the only ways to flash stuff on linux

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I thought the binary blob thing was explained?

    Basically UEFI booting requires shims and those need to be signed so the Ventoy author is re-using the ones from Fedora and OpenSUSE. This can be verified by comparing hashes, which the author of that comment shows how to do.

    This whole thing seems to come down to people freaking the F out because they don't understand how the software works and the Author of the software is currently PO'd off at the community and stopped answering questions.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just use dd. It's not that hard. You pass it 2 arguments: if= the file you want to flash, and of= the destination. If you're feeling fancy, pass in some status=progress. And don't forget to prepend it with sudo. That's it.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    I just tried this the other day and was unable to boot from the USB. Any chance you could shed some light on what I might have screwed up?

    The command was:

    dd if=fedora.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M status=progress
    

    The USB stick was not mounted and the fedora image was verified. The command completed successfully but I couldn't boot from it. When I used fedora writer to burn the same image to the same USB stick it booted no problem.

    Edit: spelling & capitalization

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Why use a fancy GUI tool when good old dd does the trick

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    Here's a wildcard people might not know about: Raspberry Pi Imager

    I use it because it's faster than Etcher and it also has a bunch of quick links to download popular images (mainly for RPI and other arm-based SBCs) in one click which is handy if you use those regularly.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Wow, I was not aware of that. I really liked balena. Thankfully, I haven't been using it since installing Mint.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yet another reason for people to run a default prompt (deny until prompt answer) firewall.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Linux mint factory USB creator just right click and make bootable.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Balenaetcher has, for me at least, failed to write to USBs for the last 3 years or so that I've tried to use it - meanwhile random iso writers from flatpak have been more reliable for me. Very obnoxious that so many iso related sites recommend it. Rufus kicks tons of ass, if for whatever reason you're still on windows.

    Also on most distros I've tried, the disk utility has some sort of right click or context menu that gets you a 'restore disk image' button that works great as well.

    Edit= I used Popsicle USB writer from flatpak on steam deck with no issue today! Made by system76 (makers of popOS) and found on flatpak. It is absolutely no frills, but works well enough to write an SD card image for a raspberry pi! 🙂

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Generally Ventoy is better than both. Choose a dedicated flash storage, flash Ventoy to it, then click and drag as many ISO's as can fit on your drive and you can boot from any one of them at any time.

    Much better than Etcher or Rufus, IMO.

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    have they tried also tracking for errors, cause it fucks up every second image unlike rufus

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Not used it since I discovered this nonsense. Shows how seriously they take security. https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/3410

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    i still had issues using 150MB electron based bloated and heavy software instead of rufus, not that it worked for me anyway

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