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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Germany is voting for a new national government this sunday and the next chancellor is most likely going to be a former BlackRock employee who is decidedly on the anti-woke side of the culture war. If Trump "offers him a deal", chances are pretty good that he'll take it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Ugh seriously? The next Canadian election looks like we’re gonna have a maga supporting loser running the country too. The entire western world is going to be reset to filter even more money into the hands of the rich and it’s fucking depressing. Why is right wing propaganda so fucking effective?! Like it literally doesn’t even differ much from worship of the rich as some kind of superhuman saviours and people just eat it up! Like you can see every issue plainly is deeply tied to the ever worsening consolidation of capital by the super wealthy and half of the world is like β€œyeah that sounds good!”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's not that it's especially effective. It's that the wealthy have been consistently pumping money into blaring division and individualism into every corner of society they thought relevant for decades upon decades. They've had plenty of time by now to figure out enough of what does and doesn't work for them (including types of journalistic reporting to promote and suppress) in terms of manipulating the news, and promoting division in many ways (including not just stirring up controversy about social issues, but other forms of division as well).

We were never going to outspend them, so I think our best bet was always to out-human them. (And probably to set up parallel economies if things get really bad.) For now, we can still start at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy and meet people we want to reach where they're at. If they aren't surviving well, they're not going to be as focused on other issues. Wherever they're at, we should focus on listening and empathizing first, then poke holes in the lies they've been told once they feel heard and respected. People who have been where they've been are the most likely to reach them. To me, all the MAGA regret we're seeing now in the US, and all the chemical spills and natural disasters that don't get major media attention and which local governments are too underfunded to help with are an opportunity for somebody to reach some of these people (ideally with monetary aid from an organized movement), so they can get their heads right and get to work on waking up those to whom they're adjacent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Propaganda works and the rich own every popular media ...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

This is the correct answer. It just annoys me because it seems so stupid and transparent to me, and it makes me disappointed in our society that people are so easily fooled.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Simple why it's so effective:

Institutions are facing increasingly insurmountable problems, and people are not dealing with the consequences and stress that comes from these problems. They want answers and solutions.

Institutions ask for you to have patience and give them time to fix the issues. Problem: people already don't believe that the institutions are fixing things, so you can't rely on them to fix it. The solution, they feel, has to come from elsewhere.

Left-wing propaganda says that the institution is broken, they will fix it. They want to take the money away from the ultra rich and give it back to the public as a form of equalization. If you are part of the ultra rich, you don't like this.

Right-wing propaganda says the institution is broken, they will fix it. Right-wingers generally believe in the accumulation of capital for themselves via "merit", which means the upper class and billionaires are likely to be supporting / using them.

People believe that things need to be fixed (which is likely true). Only left-wing and right-wing propaganda say that the institution needs to be fixed, it definitely isn't coming from the institution itself.

The ultra rich fund whichever propaganda will allow them to retain their own benefits and works to suppress the propaganda of the ones who work against their interests.

Hence, right-wing propaganda is massively inflated to support fixing a system that allows retaining wealth, while they suppress left-wing propaganda which says wealth needs to be redistributed to the masses.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

It's because of social media. It creates echo chambers. People prone to hate, greed, or just stupid people, tend to flock to certain echo chambers. I think it's by design. Silicon valley wants this right wing dystopia.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What does that mean exactly, has our back? How?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

His sword traps the souls of his victims.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not a clue what that means. Are you just compressing some chit?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the quote from the suicide squad movie about katana.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Oops, sorry, never seen it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. The moment American soldiers step foot across the Canadian border what are we going to do? It would already be over. We have no defense against the largest military in the world, and we stand no chance of defending the longest continuous border in the world. We will only be able to fight as an occupied resistance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So it's just empty blathering then, when this German ambassador says they have our back. Great.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm sure they want to mean it. But the reality is that when Russia starts making moves they will be pre-occupied and likely won't be able to help much across the Atlantic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even if Russia didn't do anything, how the hell is Germany even going to cross the Atlantik without getting blasted into oblivion? If they actually wanted to attack the US they'd have to start with the tens of thousands of US soldiers and secret service agents on their own soil.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I get it. It's just the kind of meaningless babble I'd expect in a social setting, like at a bar or party.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Do they have nukes? We could use some nukes... anyone have nukes?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The only European countries with nukes are the UK and France (225 and 290, respectively). As of January 2024 the world has ~12,121 nukes. America has 5,044 of them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe they can share some with us.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I think the States have some πŸ€ͺ

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Let's not talk about German nukes just at the moment, okay?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Germany has American nukes deployed on its territory and they would to use then if Americans told them to.

I don't think Germany has the ability to use nukes themselves though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Actions speak louder than words.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And a mobilized military is the loudest action.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Germans offering early access to their submarines and offering an arctic defense pact is a great action to see happening.

They're definitely coming across as people of their word to me.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-germany-and-norway-offer-canada-early-access-to-new-submarines-in/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Russia is doing ww1 style trench war fare in Ukraine. Germany is sitting in the corner with dick his hands hoping this shit blows over so they can get Nord Stream pumping again.

Will they deploy to fight a war in north America?

Also, they got 40k us troops within germany lol