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[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I'm calling it Labor won't run in Griffith and Brisbane, let it go to Liberal and hope they can catch up in outer suburban seats. The majors simply cannot stomach forming a coalition with the Greens, even if they that means losing.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

It's only the appearance of losing. They serve the same masters.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

can we cut this rhetoric, please?

"both sides as baddd!!!" no, not true, and labor are a bunch of chickenshit idiots swinging to the right because we taught them to behave that way at the ballot box.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

can we cut this rhetoric, please? “both sides as baddd!!!”

Personally, I'd like us to stop false dichotomy rhetoric too. This isn't a two-party system, less so every election.

As for the two biggest, I agree, they're not equivalent, I prefer one over the other (both theoretically and on the ballot), but both have stabbed workers in the back consistently. They both serve similar masters (the owning class who fund and promote them). Both are inadequate.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

... and labor are a bunch of chickenshit idiots swinging to the right because we taught them to behave that way at the ballot box.

Are you saying this or are you saying this is also the rhetoric you want to cut?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

oh no, that part is absolutely true. But you get the behaviour from politicians you vote for.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Thanks.

But you get the behaviour from politicians you vote for.

I don't understand sorry. Can you elaborate?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Labor has come again and again with the policies that people claim to want - closing tax loopholes, dealing with housing, dealing with the growing inequity between financial strata. And people turn around and vote liberal. They very clearly said at the ballot box "nonooo we don't want those". And so the window shifts.

Remember Gillard's speech? How it was a "groundbreaking speech against misogyny"? Who did we immediately vote in afterwards? The fucker who that was aimed at. We rewarded abbott's behaviour.

The more voters reward right wing behaviour, the more right wing behaviour they get from politicians after their votes. And now we're here, with Dutton as a candidate. Fucking dutton. A man so far up Trumps arse he has a permanent orange belt. We're a goddamn embarrassment.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Glad to see someone gets it, it's been great to see so many people point out how to fix housing after they voted in 2019 not to, and after punishing labor with an election loss at an unlosable election are now complaining why they don't make changes to housing now??

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Don't get me wrong generally I see labour policies favourably. I vote prodominantly green for context. What irks me is that it's party first, public second. With a razor thin majority, they water down policies to not rock the boat in WA or in coal mining towns. I get it, and their strategists have a job to do, but it alienates inner city voters. As the federal government they have a big megaphone, but they run away and put things in the too hard basket. The media play that negative gearing or stable house prices is political suicide and they fall for it.

What is the Labor party, it lacks identity, and it feels like they are running on just not being Dutton. That's a losing strategy.

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