My 17 year old car is at almost 200k miles and I just dumped over $2k into it to keep it going to a quarter million miles to try and hold off having to buy something new.
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Cheaper than a car payment.... By a lot. I budget about 1500 a year and just act like thats my car payment.
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At this pace, I'll either never change my car or will never buy a car again.
[email protected] is an option.
But yeah, with all the telemetry they've tacked onto vehicles, feels like you need a digital and electrical forensics team to disable it all
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Jeep/Chrysler have always been banned from my life.
Garbage. Worse than any other American car company. They even managed to screw up cars made for them by Mitsubishi.
Can confirm. Had to buy a Pacifica because I needed a wheelchair accessible minivan and only Pacifica offered the features I wanted. Absolute piece of shit of a car. I don't think I ever regretted any purchase as much. I would 100% compromise on the features I wanted had I known how much this car sucks. I'm talking about a brand new 2024, very well equipped car. Do not buy a Chrysler. I can shit on this car for days AMA.
I got the Pacifica plug in hybrid because it was the only minivan with any electric option. I have never regretted it so much. Every time I turn on the car it wants to connect to my Wi-Fi and update. I don't want updates I don't want my car to change and I don't trust that they're gonna do something shifty if I connect it to the internet. After having it for a year the transmission went out so I try to bring it in but it takes 6 weeks before they can see me. Finally they can see me and they take 2 weeks to look at it and diagnose. Then 4 more weeks to fix it. Meanwhile they keep telling me it should be done next week every time I call. Absolutely worst experience ever.
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If you can move somewhere with public transit, it has changed my life
Unfortunately, public transportation in my country is garbage, and I'm being considerate with that word.
Public transit might be great, but it is certainly not ad-free.
At least you didn't spend $40k for the privilege
Yeah, but I don't own the bus
Mobile phones and earbuds solve that problem for the most part.
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I love how that saying this is a software glitch is somehow supposed to make it okay? Motherfuckers, you took time and money to develop the thing. In doesn't matter that it wasn't supposed to be deployed right now. It matters that it was developed at all.
This is my tinfoil opinion, but I wouldn't be surprised that it was done on purpose to gauge the public reaction and setting the pace of rollout.
The timing is too perfect knowing damn well that Republicans won't legislate that.
I design UI for systems infinately less likely to kill you when distracted than a vehicle interface.
The only possible glitch is that this is appearing before it was supposed to.
Being triggered specifically when the vehicle is stopped shows a lot of thought on the cover your ass for saftey lawsuits front, that was no mistake.
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Jeep owners are the perfect target for this. Not exactly the kind of people doing a lot of research before purchasing a vehicle. Or else they wouldn’t buy a jeep.
Guilty as charged, I owned a total of 5 jeep/Chrysler/Dodge vehicles way back when. Moved to Infiniti, then Tesla (fucking got rid of it within a year) and now I have a Chinese BYD with every telematic disabled.
Haha. Yeah man, you’re not hyper focused on total cost of ownership. They know their audience!
At this pace, I'll either never change my car or will never buy a car again.
Based. Train, busses and bikes are superior.
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Why do I keep seeing companies blame shit like this on “a software glitch”? Like, fuckin, no it’s not. And no one believes your bullshit either.
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Are there still some e cars without bloatware and privacy issues??
Here's an article from last year. It's Australian, but I think it likely that car brands have the same or similar privacy policies wherever you go.
In short: Tesla and Korean brands are the worst. Japanese brands apart from Mazda are the best for privacy.
There’s also the Mozilla.org Privacy Not Included report
https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/categories/cars/
They have Renault as the least creepy and Nissan as the most!
Not really, they've all had telemetry for probably 20 years.
The cars with satellite radio are even worse (which isn't saying much, since they put modems in cars about 20 years ago)
My 2016 doesnt have a modem. It has a Sirus radio...but sirus operates one way and has no way to communicate back.
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I haven't followed Kotaku for years. Did they give up on covering video games? Car manufacturing isn't even adjacent.
That was my immediate reaction as well. I guess the AI author forgot which blog it was posting to.
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American cars are so bad. We did ~3000k of driving last year in the US and noticed that most of the cars on the road were new. Didn't take long to realise why - between terrible driving standards causing them to crash regularly, terrible build quality causing the interior to fall apart, and needing to drive EVERYWHERE so you flog the thing out in about 12 months vehicles are practically disposable.
There were late model cars still rocking the flashing brake light as an indicator wtf lol
They are selling right hand drive converted Yank Tanks in Australia. They are double the price after shipping, rhd conversion and making them compliant. They don't fit on our roads at all and are very restricted with payload and towing because of car licence weight restrictions. To tow more you need a truck license (light rigid).
They also have no spare parts here in Aus. Plenty of "overlanders" spending $25k to get it towed out of the outback, back to a major city and get parts flown in from Detroit. They are too heavy and wear out components on the dirt. They are built for highway only
If you want a "truck" in Aus, you buy an Isuzu or Mitsubishi cab-over truck which is like US$35,000 with a tray or box.
Isuzu diesel engines are immortal, you can't break them even if you put gasoline in them 🤣
They are brilliant. Those little NPR light rigids are much easier to drive than people realise. Available with an automated manual, good turning circle and great visibility. Sure at 100kmh they are pretty loud and bumpy (the little 3L 4cylinder at 2800rpm), but if your in say Melbourne or Sydney, most driving is 80kmh and below. If you do a lot of highway, the 5.2L 4 cylinder goes well with a 6 speed and much more aggressive engine breaking.
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always a "software glitch"
That's the easy "justification" used 99% of the time. Every single company. Fuck them all.
Start advocating for more walkable/bikable areas in your city, with more train and bus options, too.
I agree with the principle of it, but it's also a slow and tedious process, one that the complainer won't benefit from for years, if ever.
Not that you shouldn't do it, but it's not a solution to what happened here.
Hence "start advocating".
Because if you don't start, you go nowhere. And advocating is basically step 1.
The heck is "instant opt-out"? As opposed to what? Not being able to close the ad unless you buy the product?
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